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Offline Roch

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It might not to you but it does to me!

You are claiming there's knowledge of a second silencer whereas the lawyer is more circumspect 'it now seems almost certain'...

Most here seem to hold NGB1066 in high esteem and he has recently confirmed 5 silencers are connected to the case. 

The judge in the recent disclosure case

But Mr Justice Knowles added: 'I am not on the material I have seen readily able to accept the premise that the existence of a second sound moderator is capable of affecting the safety of the claimant's convictions in any meaningful way.

You are deflecting.

If the evidence in question was of no use to the defence, the monetary cost of releasing photographs and documents relating to the silencers would have been far less than the cost incurred trying to prevent their release. 

Knowles probably didn't have the bottle to order the release of the evidence (because of the prevailing 'mood music' in the background, as alluded to by the CT in a recent podcast). He therefore 'passed the buck' to the CCRC.  This would have been something that the authorities were happy with, as it simply obsfucates the defence futher and buys more time for the crown.
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You are deflecting.

If the evidence in question was of no use to the defence, the monetary cost of releasing photographs and documents relating to the silencers would have been far less than the cost incurred trying to prevent their release. 

Knowles probably didn't have the bottle to order the release of the evidence (because of the prevailing 'mood music' in the background, as alluded to by the CT in a recent podcast). He therefore 'passed the buck' to the CCRC.  This would have been something that the authorities were happy with, as it simply obsfucates the defence futher and buys more time for the crown.

There you again 'evidence in question'.  You have no idea what the material is!  Then you resort to your get out of jail card and describe the whole thing being a massive conspiracy all to keep a half-witted Essex farmer labourer behind bars. 

Maybe Bamber should lead by example and release the full commission doc from 2012.  Karma that's what it is Roch Karma.

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There you again 'evidence in question'.  You have no idea what the material is!  Then you resort to your get out of jail card and describe the whole thing being a massive conspiracy all to keep a half-witted Essex farmer labourer behind bars. 

Maybe Bamber should lead by example and release the full commission doc from 2012.  Karma that's what it is Roch Karma.

I know what it is because the defence have said what it is. It's not brain surgery. It's photographs and related documents regarding the silencer/s. This has been explained to you how many times now?

There doesn't need to be a 'conspiracy' in the context with which you infer. There just needs to be intervention behind the scenes with regards to people being told what the approach is going to be to a particular topic. Anybody who has worked for an employer in any kind of service industry can work that out. 

Just out of interest - how many judicial reviews are won?
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I know what it is because the defence have said what it is. It's not brain surgery. It's photographs and related documents regarding the silencer/s.This has been explained to you how many times now?

There doesn't need to be a 'conspiracy' in the context with which you infer. There just needs to be intervention behind the scenes with regards to people being told what the approach is going to be to a particular topic. Anybody who has worked for an employer in any kind of service industry can work that out. 

Just out of interest - how many judicial reviews are won?

Source please.


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Source please.

I am not your gofer. How do you think the whole approach to the CPS came about in the first place?

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Source please.






There is an archive here on the forum---police documents/ statements etc. Take a look.

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I am not your gofer. How do you think the whole approach to the CPS came about in the first place?

You need to provide sources if making a statement.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

Offline Roch

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You need to provide sources if making a statement.

The defence became aware of the existence of the said docs / images being held by CPS. So they requested them. After initially being told disclosure was a possibility, it was eventually refused. They took it to judicial review. It was refused. Read the papers.

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I think members should provide a link if they're making such claims.

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I think members should provide a link if they're making such claims.


I think you should provide proof Julie Mugford never lied in her witness statements and she was a prolific liar and had committed numerous crimes

I look forward to you posting how you can tell when Mugford lied and when she told the truth

It is a fact that Mugford admitted to numerous crimes compared to Jeremy
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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I think you should provide proof Julie Mugford never lied in her witness statements and she was a prolific liar and had committed numerous crimes

I look forward to you posting how you can tell when Mugford lied and when she told the truth

It is a fact that Mugford admitted to numerous crimes compared to Jeremy

What need is there for Steve_uk to provide proof that Julie Mugford committed numerous crimes when as you have pointed out she admitted to numerous crimes?  Are you referring to different crimes?  :-\

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I think members should provide a link if they're making such claims.

A link to what Steve? Have you not followed events?

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I think you should provide proof Julie Mugford never lied in her witness statements and she was a prolific liar and had committed numerous crimes

I look forward to you posting how you can tell when Mugford lied and when she told the truth

It is a fact that Mugford admitted to numerous crimes compared to Jeremy


As usual Steve the silence is deafening. Please provide proof that you know Julie Mugford was telling the truth
when she told police and her friends Jeremy Bamber had told he was responsible for the murders
You can post it right now because everyone here in this forum is dying to see it
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Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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As usual Steve the silence is deafening. Please provide proof that you know Julie Mugford was telling the truth
when she told police and her friends Jeremy Bamber had told he was responsible for the murders
You can post it right now because everyone here in this forum is dying to see it

JackieD talking of silence is deafening I just wondered if you're aware of the 'Justice for Jeremy' ringtone?  If you and/or other supporters would like to upload to your phones its here

https://www.zedge.net/find/justice4jeremy

Offline Steve_uk

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A link to what Steve? Have you not followed events?
I was referring to the archives here, which are legion. The problem generally is that Jeremy's defence relies on withheld documents which they somehow seem privy to the content contained therein.