Podcast by Bamber's support group containing information about 03/21 submission

[killingeve]

I probably have more sense than the CPS ! And yes, I'd have made a good " Vera ", my style of sleuthing

I somehow doubt that!

If your're such a great sleuth how come Bamber is still incacerated?

[Steve_uk]

I somehow doubt that!

If your're such a great sleuth how come Bamber is still incacerated?

..because the best legal minds in the country still can't get him out.

[killingeve]

..because the best legal minds in the country still can't get him out.

Perhaps because the evidence against Bamber is so compelling.

We will see how Yvonne fares with the commission.  She is certainly the underdog.

[lookout]

..because the best legal minds in the country still can't get him out.

The best legal minds are all dead and buried I'm afraid. Nothing and nobody is as it/ they used to be.

[killingeve]

The best legal minds are all dead and buried I'm afraid. Nothing and nobody is as it/ they used to be.

Now you really are being silly.  The UK currently has some of the best legal minds in the world. 

Do you realistically think Bamber will ever win an appeal?

[lookout]

Now you really are being silly.  The UK currently has some of the best legal minds in the world. 

Do you realistically think Bamber will ever win an appeal?

With one or two of these " best legal minds in the world "-----yes he should win his appeal.

[killingeve]

With one or two of these " best legal minds in the world "-----yes he should win his appeal.

But he currently has the support group. 

Lookout on a serious note do you anticipate a referral?

[lookout]

But he currently has the support group. 

Lookout on a serious note do you anticipate a referral?

I do think he'll be referred this time, yes.

[killingeve]

I do think he'll be referred this time, yes.

And if it isn't?

[lookout]

And if it isn't?

Well that'll be that won't it ?

[Steve_uk]

The best legal minds are all dead and buried I'm afraid. Nothing and nobody is as it/ they used to be.

Nobody seems to want to do the spadework today lookout, whether in the legal or other fields. We are supposed to be moving to a high wage economy and restricting immigration, but it won't work unless the indigenous white working class shape up.

[lookout]

Nobody seems to want to do the spadework today lookout, whether in the legal or other fields. We are supposed to be moving to a high wage economy and restricting immigration, but it won't work unless the indigenous white working class shape up.

I agree with you Steve.

[killingeve]

I found this podcast on youtube ie one in title.  I didn't realise the support group has made a whole series of them on the 'official' site.  Anyway I listened to the podcast again and I think Yvonne is utterly deluded if she really believes the police know Bamber is innocent. 

In some respects she talks about the case as though it is recent instead of some 36 years ago.  The pension age for police officers is 60.  Therefore the vast majority, if not all serving officers, who had anything to do with the case pre trial are long retired and many are deceased. 

If there is clear evidence one of the victims called the police why would Essex police in 2021 cover up knowing it could unravel and backfire?  Why would current serving officers risk their livlihoods and liberty to cover up for retired/deceased officers who in all probability have never had any contact with officers who worked the case in 86/86.   

[lookout]

I would hope that the subject of a highly paid prosecution witness, namely JM when she received £25,000, comes to the fore during this appeal.
I've spoken to a few people who've said you're lucky to get your train/ bus fare to the court, reimbursed. ?

Why was she paid this amount ?

[killingeve]

I would hope that the subject of a highly paid prosecution witness, namely JM when she received £25,000, comes to the fore during this appeal.
I've spoken to a few people who've said you're lucky to get your train/ bus fare to the court, reimbursed. ?

Why was she paid this amount ?

You're getting ahead of yourself Lookout!  It's only at submission stage and dependent on the commission to refer to Court of Appeal for an appeal!  I think Yvonne is completely misguided and there will not be an appeal.  I suspect Bamber knows this deep down. 

Anyway re Julie Mugford and the 25k even if it can be shown there was some financial incentive which may make her testimony unreliable I think the commission/Court of Appeal will fall back on the silencer and other prosecution points.