Podcast by Bamber's support group containing information about 03/21 submission

[killingeve]

How many circumstances that aligned were merely coincidence; and how many were by design?

A group of officers willing to frame a 'suspect'.

Large scale non-disclosure.

A group of relatives not served well by the wills of Nevill and June, who became prosecution witnesses.

A barrister who had never defended before and showed the prosecution way too much respect.

A pre-trial 'cheque-book journalism' agreement, (25K for a guilty verdict) masquerading as a post trial agreement.

A 'washed' star witness, provided with immunity from prosecution.

A judge involved in previous wrongful convictions, in another case involving corrupt police officers.

A SIO who retired after the first appeal was refused and was found to be employed by the very prosecution witness who had him installed as SIO in the first place.

Subsequent appeals and referrals having to take place with a backdrop of non-disclosure, despite a court order and despite the CCRC having powers.

Propaganda masquerading as fact based drama or documentaries (with glaring omissions and lack of depth).

You are right, it is what it is.. Not a very good advert for British justice or media journalism.

Talking of propaganda the same could be said for the support group which attempts to mislead with points that simply do not stand up to scrutiny eg a phone call from Mr Bamber, a 999 call from Sheila, two bodies in the kitchen, movement inside the farmhouse when Bamber was outside, curtains opening/closing, lights on/off, police shooting Sheila, police using crime scene as training exercise. 

[Roch]

Talking of propaganda the same could be said for the support group which attempts to mislead with points that simply do not stand up to scrutiny eg a phone call from Mr Bamber, a 999 call from Sheila, two bodies in the kitchen, movement inside the farmhouse when Bamber was outside, curtains opening/closing, lights on/off, police shooting Sheila, police using crime scene as training exercise.

I think this caused quite a stir within EP..

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-bamber-police-used-familys-107641

[Roch]

Does anyone else wonder whether Yvonne Hartley did the voiceovers for The Flumps?

[JackieD]

In the Sky doc Anthony Arldige said he was concerned the judge was showing bias. I don't think his concern was for Bamber but rather in his experience jurors often go against the judge if they feel he/she is leading them too much/showing bias. 

Lots of things probably should have happened at trial but it is what it is!

You really do take the biscuit of being one of the vilest people to frequent this forum just as Matt popped up just before the last decision.


You think. Once again you haven’t got a clue, let’s hope you never sit on a jury

It is what it is You absolute freak
An innocent man could well be sitting in prison and you come out with shit like that

You have not fooled a single one of the intelligent posters on here not for a second

And just to answer a question you raised earlier

Ngb would not lift a finger to help Jeremy if he really thought he had murdered 2 small children

Got it !!!!!!!!!

[killingeve]

You really do take the biscuit of being one of the vilest people to frequent this forum just as Matt popped up just before the last decision.


You think. Once again you haven’t got a clue, let’s hope you never sit on a jury

It is what it is You absolute freak
An innocent man could well be sitting in prison and you come out with shit like that

You have not fooled a single one of the intelligent posters on here not for a second

And just to answer a question you raised earlier

Ngb would not lift a finger to help Jeremy if he really thought he had murdered 2 small children

Got it !!!!!!!!!

 

[killingeve]

I think this caused quite a stir within EP..

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-bamber-police-used-familys-107641

Why?  I can't see there's any truth to it.

[Roch]

Why?  I can't see there's any truth to it.

I'm not aware its been denied by EP.  Even if it was, that wouldn't be proof that informatives didn't take place. Remember, the defence now have far more info on how many officers attended the scene.

[David1819]

, movement inside the farmhouse when Bamber was outside, curtains opening/closing, lights on/off,

There is actually evidence to support that one..

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10027.msg457798.html#msg457798

[Roch]

There is actually evidence to support that one..

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10027.msg457798.html#msg457798

[killingeve]

There is actually evidence to support that one..

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10027.msg457798.html#msg457798

Thanks.  Impressive detail but does it stand up? Can it be referred to as evidence?

I don’t recall Bamber mentioning anything about this in his police statements/interviews or at trial.  When the prosecutor put it to him that he killed his family he replied ‘That’s for you to prove’.  He could have said ‘No, absolutely not.  I was outside with the police when there was movement in the house, lights going on/off and curtains opening/closing.  PC Bewes thought it was a trick of the light but I think Sheila was still alive inside the house’.   He could have referred to this in his first witness statement and interviews under caution but not a word until decades later when he’s scraping the barrel with his support group.

Bewes also states “No sign of life”.

There are a lot of windows at the farmhouse and I think its just a case of wires being crossed over identifying which window was being referred to.  Were any night images taken? 

I’m not sure the red glow in the bedroom window is a lightbulb.  If you look at the front door you will see something similar at a level you would not expect to see a lightbulb unless it is some sort of optical illusion from a light much further away and you end up with a sort of prism effect if that makes sense!

[killingeve]

David

You can also draw a straight line between those two 'lights' which gives me the impression it might well be the sun reflecting on some object.

[killingeve]

Have I had a lightbulb moment? 

[killingeve]

Maybe we can see the 'trick of the light' with our own eyes!

[killingeve]

The more I look at David's image of the front of the farmhouse I think it is a shaft a sunlight beaming down across the bedroom window through to the front door enabling us to see the 'trick of the light' ourselves. 

Also I think the glow in the bedroom is too high to come from some sort of man-made ceiling light.

[Bubo bubo]

The more I look at David's image of the front of the farmhouse I think it is a shaft a sunlight beaming down across the bedroom window through to the front door enabling us to see the 'trick of the light' ourselves. 

Also I think the glow in the bedroom is too high to come from some sort of man-made ceiling light.

I am sorry but from my perspective I do not see the effect you are seeing. I do not know what others might see but respectfully suggest you take a trip to Specsavers.