Updated Bamber scenario. Matching crime scene evidence.

[Valanking]

Good points actually folks.

Bloody case.

[Valanking]

I personally reckon a hit man did this. Paid by Jeremy.

Those shots were too accurate. Also Jeremy wouldn't have the guts.

[guest29835]

I personally reckon a hit man did this. Paid by Jeremy.

Those shots were too accurate. Also Jeremy wouldn't have the guts.

Could be, and I'm not certain Matthew MacDonald's alibi was checked out thoroughly.  I'm reminded of what a lawyer once told me: the only sure alibi is to spend the night handcuffed to two High Court judges.

But would a hitman kill two infant boys?

Regarding accuracy, remember that all the shots are at close quarters, so it would not be difficult for Sheila to be 100% accurate.  A child could do it.  Contrary to what was claimed by the relatives, Sheila had been on a shooting holiday with them and used a gun.  She had been brought up on the farm and must have observed Jeremy and Nevill using guns, giving her general familiarity with them. 

Furthermore, as I mention earlier in the thread, Malcolm Fletcher is wrong to claim that the killer had 100% accuracy.  In fact, there was at least one spent bullet, maybe more that were never found. 

[Roch]

This accurate shots claim is all down to CAL. It's her 'narrative'. There are now loads and loads of newly interested people who are repeating this mantra. Which is exactly why I said the drama and this 'docu' were designed to influence public opinion. David mocks this. He should take a headcount of all the new interested parties who now argue this accuracy claim. It may take him a while to finish counting.

[lookout]

Who could miss a shot in a closed environment such as a room ? Crack-shots aren't always accurate either.

[Steve_uk]

This accurate shots claim is all down to CAL. It's her 'narrative'. There are now loads and loads of newly interested people who are repeating this mantra. Which is exactly why I said the drama and this 'docu' were designed to influence public opinion. David mocks this. He should take a headcount of all the new interested parties who now argue this accuracy claim. It may take him a while to finish counting.

Wasn't it twenty-five shots all on target, none hit a wall, from a woman who couldn't pour a drink into a glass without spilling and who couldn't drive a motor vehicle?

[Rob_]

Possibly.

How about long nails loading bullets... And fighting Neville and no broken nails...

I have only seen one photo of SC's hand showing her nails, there were odds and ends on her bed maybe she repainted them prior to shooting herself? It's not uncommon for people about to commit suicide to make themselves look good?

[Roch]

Wasn't it twenty-five shots all on target, none hit a wall, from a woman who couldn't pour a drink into a glass without spilling and who couldn't drive a motor vehicle?

Podcasts have upped the shots to 30.  Don't know why.

[Rob_]

I personally reckon a hit man did this. Paid by Jeremy.

Those shots were too accurate. Also Jeremy wouldn't have the guts.

The two boys and June initially was asleep, at close range no particular skill needed? With Nevil the first shot may have been a accident and hit him in the arm the last four shots he was slumped over the chair and again virtually stationary. I don't see the argument for a crack shooter needed to carry out the crime?

[Adam]

Podcasts have upped the shots to 30.  Don't know why.

 

[Steve_uk]

The two boys and June initially was asleep, at close range no particular skill needed? With Nevil the first shot may have been a accident and hit him in the arm the last four shots he was slumped over the chair and again virtually stationary. I don't see the argument for a crack shooter needed to carry out the crime?

She would have had to reload the gun twice, the ammunition tipped out on the blue and white chequered worktop by the kitchen telephone didn't tally with the numbers used, she didn't in death look as if she had exerted herself, her nails were intact.

It was Jeremy who was the crack shooter. Smoke and mirrors..

[Adam]

Nevill's first two face shots Sheila would not have been achieved by Sheila The shots were from inches away, Nevill would have confronted her before she got that close.

As said Nevill would have resolved the situation straight away. Prior to any shots. He needed his sleep after & prior to work.

And why were Sheila & Nevill not in dressing gowns or slippers? Anyone would think they had abruptly had to get out of bed.

[Rob_]

I personally reckon a hit man did this. Paid by Jeremy.

Those shots were too accurate. Also Jeremy wouldn't have the guts.

Would a hit man carry out the killing of two boys? and how much would this cost? would require a huge down payment? One of the questions in the polygraph covered this and JB passed.

Nevil would definitely have dialed 999 if it was anyone other the SC, and would SC lie down for a stranger to shot her I don't think so, she would have fought back, she was paranoid.

To me the crime scene is suggestive of someone in a total rage.

[Steve_uk]

Would a hit man carry out the killing of two boys? and how much would this cost? would require a huge down payment? One of the questions in the polygraph covered this and JB passed.

Nevil would definitely have dialed 999 if it was anyone other the SC, and would SC lie down for a stranger to shot her I don't think so, she would have fought back, she was paranoid.

To me the crime scene is suggestive of someone in a total rage.

She wasn't "all there" as most members here know. She might just have taken Jeremy's hand those last few confusing seconds, led across the landing  like a lamb to the slaughter to fulfil the dreams of an unscrupulous conman, who later that morning thought only of a Porsche motor car as he chuckled behind closed doors.

[Rob_]

She wasn't "all there" as most members here know. She might just have taken Jeremy's hand those last few confusing seconds, led across the landing  like a lamb to the slaughter to fulfil the dreams of an unscrupulous conman, who later that morning thought only of a Porsche motor car as he chuckled behind closed doors.

People who are paranoid have a heightened fear of danger so I don't think she would just lie down unless sedated. How the shot to Sheila was done is a mystery to me if it was not suicide?

It was this that got me interested in the case watching the WHF series.