Updated Bamber scenario. Matching crime scene evidence.

[Adam]

Cycle to WHF:

Evidence - June's bike brought over to Bamber's cottage just before massacre.  Easy journey. Unseen.


Get into WHF

Evidence - Bathroom window loose or open. Quiet ground floor entrance. Bamber said he knew how to get in through this window.

Pick up rifle:

Evidence ' Rifle available as stated by Bamber.


Fire one bullet into each twin.

Evidence - Julie said the twins were shot first.


Enter main bedroom:

Evidence - Two adults in this room who must be killed with remaining 9 bullets as potential to provide most resistance.


Shoot an in bed June and Neville:

Evidence - 9 shots were fired in the main bedroom opening salvo suggesting rifle was emptied in opening salvo.   June and Neville shot in or near the bed.


Go to reload or chase Neville:

Evidence - Spare bullets found in kitchen. Neville found in kitchen.


Kitchen fight:

Evidence - Neville was brutally beaten there.  Upturned and smashed kitchen items. Scratch marks on aga.


Reload, shoot and kill a knocked out Neville:

Evidence - Four kitchen head shots into Neville.


Reload. Return upstairs:

Evidence - All other shots upstairs.


Shoot June twice more:

Evidence - June had moved a few feet. Final shots required. Two of June's 7 shots would have killed her quickly.


Shoot the sleeping twins more times

Evidence - Twins shot 8 times in bed. Amount of bullets used shows two reloads carried out on the night.


Either wake and shoot or shoot an already awake Sheila:

Evidence - Sheila found shot in the corner of main bedroom. Sheila on Haloperidol so easy to control.


Go downstairs to check on Nevill

Evidence - Nevill was downstairs.


Remove & replace silencer. Move Nevill. Burn his back.

Evidence - Silencer with Sheila's blood & aga paint on/in found in cupboard. Nevill's back burnt. Nevill lifted onto coal scuttle.


Stage the scene:

Evidence - Gun and bible by Sheila.


Exit out of kitchen window:


Evidence - Twenty sources say it can be banged shut from outside. Housekeeper said items moved by kitchen window.on night of massacre.


Cycle home:

Evidence - Bike found at Bambers cottage

[Adam]

As everyone knows QC has refused to provide his two
alledged Sheila scenarios. Which is disappointing.

Hopefully my thread will create good discussion.

I have added the silencer removal & back burning. They were issues discussed yesterday.

[Adam]

The most recent obstacle was from Rob. Who said after replacing the silencer & burning Nevill's back, Bamber would not be able to go back upstairs.

This falls flat as Bamber had already gone up/down the stairs more than once.

[Rob_]

Have you ever walked in a field at night Adam ? I have and with no torch it's very difficult, very easy to lose your way even if you know the area well.

Cycling with no lights would not be easy either, I think he would have walked but kept to the main tracks?

[Adam]

Have you ever walked in a field at night Adam ? I have and with no torch it's very difficult, very easy to lose your way even if you know the area well.

Cycling with no lights would not be easy either, I think he would have walked but kept to the main tracks?

Bamber cycled through footpaths.

[lookout]

And Adam says he doesn't make things up  He's paranoid !!

[Rob_]

Bamber cycled through footpaths.

Footpaths? the most likely route was the by sea wall just a rough track difficult with no lights?

[Rob_]

And Adam says he doesn't make things up  He's paranoid !!

I am trying to take his posts seriously but it's hard, there is no thought in anything he says.

[Rob_]

Go to reload or chase Neville:

Evidence - Spare bullets found in kitchen. Neville found in kitchen.


JB would not go back downstairs to reload Adam for reasons I have already explained, he would take bullets with him and reload the magazine as the crime unfolded.

[Adam]

I am trying to take his posts seriously but it's hard, there is no thought in anything he says.

Have you read Wilkinson's WS. Or are you still looking for the imaginary campsite?

Try to focus on the posts. Not the poster.

Lookout focuses on the poster because she supports Bamber for non evidence reasons - Bamber sends her Christmas cards. So has no good points to make.

I gave your Sheila scenario a battering - 34 flaws. Don't take it personally. David's got such a battering he created another 4!

Feel free to discuss my Bamber scenario. But you must do better than claim Bamber could not walk upstairs after burning Nevill's back.

[Adam]

Go to reload or chase Neville:

Evidence - Spare bullets found in kitchen. Neville found in kitchen.


JB would not go back downstairs to reload Adam for reasons I have already explained, he would take bullets with him and reload the magazine as the crime unfolded.

Ok. So Bamber chased Nevill.

Evidence - Nevill found in kitchen.

[Rob_]

Have you read Wilkinson's WS. Or are you still looking for the imaginary campsite?

I have not yet read the Wilkinson's WS but this was done in daylight unless I am mistaken?

[Rob_]

If you stop twisting and misquoting everything members post then there will be no need to concentrate on you.

[Adam]

If you stop twisting and misquoting everything members post then there will be no need to concentrate on you.

I've created a Bamber scenario. Matching the crime scene evidence.

Feel free to comment on it. You did answer 4 of my 34 flaws in your Sheila scenario. So time to focus on Bamber again.

[Adam]

I have not yet read the Wilkinson's WS but this was done in daylight unless I am mistaken?

No idea.

Bamber was brought up & lived/ worked in the area. Dark footpaths will not deter him.

He could always buy a bike light if he wanted.