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Offline Jane

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« Reply #540 on: December 17, 2021, 08:57:PM »
You make my point

I did not say they were anything but respectful. during the time they were together at the mortuary.

I did not say what I thought their motives were at that time merely that they had a good chance for a long chat.

I never said they had a knees up at JB's but people can go outside for a chat.

I believe they are consummate liars. That is not a fact it is an opinion that I hold.

This is what I actually said.

What about at the wake? I am sure their paths would have crossed several times before she went to the police. You just make stuff up. You have no evidence or qualifications to mind read all the actors in this drama. Many of your posts involve you psychoanalysing peoples thoughts and motives. That is ok when related to a piece of evidence but most is your psychobabble.

At this point I think you should inform the forum of your qualifications.

in what subjects are you qualified and at what establishment were these qualifications obtained. It would help your arguments if they were in Psychology or Human anthropology.

From you

Better to be qualified to understand what how people are most likely to act under given circumstances, than spout moronic facts which have been bent to how you'd have them be, eh?

Without qualifications you are no more qualified than the next poster.

So you see  that your recent posts contain a stream of psychobabble you have created in your own mind based on things that I have not said.


Yeh! I seem to recall, several years back, someone else demanding to know what my qualifications are. You're entitled to think what you like about what you believe I "should" do, but I'd also ask what gives you the right to ask it of me. With a good working knowledge of how many on this forum work, chances are, as you're clearly hostile, you'd say I was lying.

However, enough about me, eh? So you think they had time for a "good chance for a long chat". What would you suggest they chatted about? On the other hand, it probably doesn't matter, because if you knew you'd be likely to label them as liars.

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« Reply #541 on: December 17, 2021, 10:44:PM »

Yeh! I seem to recall, several years back, someone else demanding to know what my qualifications are. You're entitled to think what you like about what you believe I "should" do, but I'd also ask what gives you the right to ask it of me. With a good working knowledge of how many on this forum work, chances are, as you're clearly hostile, you'd say I was lying.

However, enough about me, eh? So you think they had time for a "good chance for a long chat". What would you suggest they chatted about? On the other hand, it probably doesn't matter, because if you knew you'd be likely to label them as liars.

Here you go again. Now you can even read my mind to the extent that you can predict what I am going to say next. This is taking you into the realms of Madam Arcati

I would not suggest you do anything other than respond to posts rather than dream up psychobabble as part of your answers.
 
I believe AE was seeking to befriend JM in order to find negative information about JB which might help the Boutflour clan convince the EP about JB's guilt. Did I read somewhere that AE asked JM if JB had any injuries?

Since you now believe in guilt answer the riddle of the blue socks. Always assuming you understand the argument.

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« Reply #542 on: December 18, 2021, 12:09:AM »
Perhaps you should read my take on JM again.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10693.msg493790.html#msg493790

It could be AE who spooked her.
Your analysis falls down because if you have decided to make a full and frank legal statement for whatever motives or pressure within you're not going to concoct a hitman story which would be checked for accuracy and found to be wanting.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2021, 07:40:AM by Steve_uk »

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« Reply #543 on: December 18, 2021, 10:51:AM »
Here you go again. Now you can even read my mind to the extent that you can predict what I am going to say next. This is taking you into the realms of Madam Arcati

I would not suggest you do anything other than respond to posts rather than dream up psychobabble as part of your answers.
 
I believe AE was seeking to befriend JM in order to find negative information about JB which might help the Boutflour clan convince the EP about JB's guilt. Did I read somewhere that AE asked JM if JB had any injuries?

Since you now believe in guilt answer the riddle of the blue socks. Always assuming you understand the argument.


Ooh! I do SO love riddles. Perhaps, as I know nothing about blue socks, you could put up a link, and I'll see if I can resolve it for you. I'll try to refrain from going into psychobabble as it's clearly something, from your response, which irritates you. Or should that be gives you the itch and causes you to scratch? Very inelegant.

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« Reply #544 on: December 18, 2021, 02:14:PM »

Ooh! I do SO love riddles. Perhaps, as I know nothing about blue socks, you could put up a link, and I'll see if I can resolve it for you. I'll try to refrain from going into psychobabble as it's clearly something, from your response, which irritates you. Or should that be gives you the itch and causes you to scratch? Very inelegant.

You have a lot of catching up to do.
Although there was discussion around the finding of a SM DB1 on the day, the riddle of the blue socks starts here.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10740.60.html

Cambridge Cutie is looking at it and I am waiting for her/his reply.

Psychobabble does not make me itch. It irritates my brain waves to think that such rubbish can be used by posters to advance an argument, when they are not qualified psychologists.

Good luck


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« Reply #545 on: December 18, 2021, 02:20:PM »
You have a lot of catching up to do.
Although there was discussion around the finding of a SM DB1 on the day, the riddle of the blue socks starts here.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10740.60.html

Cambridge Cutie is looking at it and I am waiting for her/his reply.

Psychobabble does not make me itch. It irritates my brain waves to think that such rubbish can be used by posters to advance an argument, when they are not qualified psychologists.

Good luck


May it continue to do so. With any luck you have enough basic intelligence to realize that it's not required for one to be "a qualified psychologist" for them to be qualified in other areas which require a working knowledge of psychology.

Thank-you for posting the link.

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« Reply #546 on: December 18, 2021, 02:30:PM »

May it continue to do so. With any luck you have enough basic intelligence to realize that it's not required for one to be "a qualified psychologist" for them to be qualified in other areas which require a working knowledge of psychology.

Thank-you for posting the link.

In deed I do but they do not go round saying they are qualified as you did.

This is another part of the story/thread dealing with this issue.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10740.150.html

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« Reply #547 on: December 18, 2021, 02:39:PM »
In deed I do but they do not go round saying they are qualified as you did.

This is another part of the story/thread dealing with this issue.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10740.150.html


So I now have to ask you to provide the evidence of me claiming I was/am a qualified psychologist.

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« Reply #548 on: December 18, 2021, 03:30:PM »

So I now have to ask you to provide the evidence of me claiming I was/am a qualified psychologist.

You mean like this

"From what you say, you seem to think we're all puppets. That we have no emotions. You are correct in that they would have met at the funeral and the wake, although they probably weren't alone together in either of those places for long. It follows that, at a wake, even a tiny one held in JB's tiny cottage, people will have shared their thoughts and feelings. As they were mourning an entire family, which included two small boys, it's unlikely to have been a knees-up, don't you think? There will have been thoughts appropriate to the solemn occasion. Better to be qualified to understand what how people are most likely to act under given circumstances, than spout moronic facts which have been bent to how you'd have them be, eh?"

Get on with the riddle if you have the capacity. You are just looking for an argument rather than address the uncomfortable evidence I have presented that the police found DB1 on the day.

I will only respond to your posts that address this question and will not engage with your mischief making. I am interested in the facts of the case not the inner workings of your mind which are not about the case but how you cannot come to terms with your change in stance. I suggest this is what drives you.


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« Reply #549 on: December 18, 2021, 03:54:PM »
You mean like this

"From what you say, you seem to think we're all puppets. That we have no emotions. You are correct in that they would have met at the funeral and the wake, although they probably weren't alone together in either of those places for long. It follows that, at a wake, even a tiny one held in JB's tiny cottage, people will have shared their thoughts and feelings. As they were mourning an entire family, which included two small boys, it's unlikely to have been a knees-up, don't you think? There will have been thoughts appropriate to the solemn occasion. Better to be qualified to understand what how people are most likely to act under given circumstances, than spout moronic facts which have been bent to how you'd have them be, eh?"

Get on with the riddle if you have the capacity. You are just looking for an argument rather than address the uncomfortable evidence I have presented that the police found DB1 on the day.

I will only respond to your posts that address this question and will not engage with your mischief making. I am interested in the facts of the case not the inner workings of your mind which are not about the case but how you cannot come to terms with your change in stance. I suggest this is what drives you.


So NOW who's putting their own interpretation on someone else's words, eh? Nowhere in that sentence do I make the claim of being "a qualified psychologist". Such are YOUR words, not mine. However, that I'm NOT -nor am I likely to be- "a qualified psychologist", it doesn't mean I'm not qualified to know "how most people would act under given circumstances". It's not particularly difficult. When the variables are removed, the alternatives/possibilities become limited.

That I'm "mischief making" is, AGAIN, something you've conjured up -I wonder what it is you seem convinced I'm making mischief of?- or perhaps it's been suggested to you? It sounds as if you may have been in contact with others who've overly concerned themselves with my "change of stance". As far as I can see, "socks" were mentioned once, in passing. For most people, there isn't anything sinister or suspicious in that. However, for a conspiracy theorist...........well, the world is their oyster, isn't it?

I really don't give a toss whether or not you respond to my posts -indeed, I'd encourage you not to- as the greater percentage of what you claim about me is what you appear to have made up and projected on to me. As we clearly have nothing to say, of value, to each other, may I suggest the use of the ignore facility.

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« Reply #550 on: December 18, 2021, 04:16:PM »
You mean like this

"From what you say, you seem to think we're all puppets. That we have no emotions. You are correct in that they would have met at the funeral and the wake, although they probably weren't alone together in either of those places for long. It follows that, at a wake, even a tiny one held in JB's tiny cottage, people will have shared their thoughts and feelings. As they were mourning an entire family, which included two small boys, it's unlikely to have been a knees-up, don't you think? There will have been thoughts appropriate to the solemn occasion. Better to be qualified to understand what how people are most likely to act under given circumstances, than spout moronic facts which have been bent to how you'd have them be, eh?"

Get on with the riddle if you have the capacity. You are just looking for an argument rather than address the uncomfortable evidence I have presented that the police found DB1 on the day.

I will only respond to your posts that address this question and will not engage with your mischief making. I am interested in the facts of the case not the inner workings of your mind which are not about the case but how you cannot come to terms with your change in stance. I suggest this is what drives you.

 Bubo ignore her. She lives in a dream world and likes to make up her version of events. She hasn’t got any qualifications but likes to try and make people think she has. Her days are spent tapping on the computer abusing people. It’s pathetic
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #551 on: December 18, 2021, 04:20:PM »
Bubo ignore her. She lives in a dream world and likes to make up her version of events. She hasn’t got any qualifications but likes to try and make people think she has. Her days are spent tapping on the computer abusing people. It’s pathetic

And making false claims of knowing witnesses in this case.

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« Reply #552 on: December 18, 2021, 04:23:PM »

So NOW who's putting their own interpretation on someone else's words, eh? Nowhere in that sentence do I make the claim of being "a qualified psychologist". Such are YOUR words, not mine. However, that I'm NOT -nor am I likely to be- "a qualified psychologist", it doesn't mean I'm not qualified to know "how most people would act under given circumstances". It's not particularly difficult. When the variables are removed, the alternatives/possibilities become limited.

That I'm "mischief making" is, AGAIN, something you've conjured up -I wonder what it is you seem convinced I'm making mischief of?- or perhaps it's been suggested to you? It sounds as if you may have been in contact with others who've overly concerned themselves with my "change of stance". As far as I can see, "socks" were mentioned once, in passing. For most people, there isn't anything sinister or suspicious in that. However, for a conspiracy theorist...........well, the world is their oyster, isn't it?

I really don't give a toss whether or not you respond to my posts -indeed, I'd encourage you not to- as the greater percentage of what you claim about me is what you appear to have made up and projected on to me. As we clearly have nothing to say, of value, to each other, may I suggest the use of the ignore facility.
It is clear you have no understanding of the evidence detail so you are prolonging this spat to absolve you from your ignorance when it comes to understanding this case. Solve the mystery of the blue socks and I might take you more seriously. You can or cannot take on this challenge that is your choice. Failure to counteract my points will prove your inadequacy in understanding case detail to forum readers. That will show that anything you may say has no weight or bearing because you cannot get to grips with the facts.  Prove me wrong. I will let you have the last word which will give you some pleasure.

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« Reply #553 on: December 18, 2021, 04:33:PM »
It is clear you have no understanding of the evidence detail so you are prolonging this spat to absolve you from your ignorance when it comes to understanding this case. Solve the mystery of the blue socks and I might take you more seriously. You can or cannot take on this challenge that is your choice. Failure to counteract my points will prove your inadequacy in understanding case detail to forum readers. That will show that anything you may say has no weight or bearing because you cannot get to grips with the facts.  Prove me wrong. I will let you have the last word which will give you some pleasure.


Thank-you 8)

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« Reply #554 on: December 18, 2021, 05:15:PM »
Bubo ignore her. She lives in a dream world and likes to make up her version of events. She hasn’t got any qualifications but likes to try and make people think she has. Her days are spent tapping on the computer abusing people. It’s pathetic


Oh dear me! Up jumps the forum goon/abuser in chief. Only to be expected. At least MY qualification are in my brain, not, like yours, in your ****