THE SILENCER SAGA

[killingeve]

The blood was first reported by the relatives. This is prior to the silencer being in the possession of the police and the lab staff. This narrows down the contamination to them and them ONLY.

You missed out the word 'retrospectively'.
 

[Adam]

The blood was first reported by the relatives. This is prior to the silencer being in the possession of the police and the lab staff. This narrows down the contamination to them and them ONLY.

Thanks. No one has known that over the last 36 years.

[Adam]

Lots of reasons why Bamber would use a silencer.

Lots of reasons why he would take it off after finishing the shootings.

Lots of reasons why he would put it away.

No evidence the relatives scratched the aga & asked the police for a sample of Sheila's blood.

[mike tesko]

Lots of reasons why Bamber would use a silencer.

Lots of reasons why he would take it off after finishing the shootings.

Lots of reasons why he would put it away.

No evidence the relatives scratched the aga & asked the police for a sample of Sheila's blood.

A total of four blood samples were taken from Sheila Caffell during autopsy. Yet only three of them were processed or analysed. One of the blood samples went missing and could not be accounted for. This came to light during the COLP investigation. They discovered that 'DI COOK' took possession of these four blood samples.When questioned by 'COLP' about the fourth blood samples whereabouts, or whether or not it was analysed at the lab', 'DI COOK' told them that it had got lost and  noboby knew where and when it had disappeared to. .

[killingeve]

A total of four blood samples were taken from Sheila Caffell during autopsy. Yet only three of them were processed or analysed. One of the blood samples went missing and could not be accounted for. This came to light during the COLP investigation. They discovered that 'DI COOK' took possession of these four blood samples.When questioned by 'COLP' about the fourth blood samples whereabouts, or whether or not it was analysed at the lab', 'DI COOK' told them that it had got lost and  noboby knew where and when it had disappeared to. .

According to the following 3 blood samples were taken for Sheila, 3 for Mr Bamber, 2 for Mrs Bamber and 1 for each of Daniel and Nicholas.

[ngb1066]

I have removed several posts from this thread because they contained personal abuse and therefore added little to the debate.  Please try to keep to the thread topic and refrain from personal attacks.

[David1819]

No evidence the relatives scratched the aga & asked the police for a sample of Sheila's blood.

Muzzle imprints on Sheila's chin.
Absence of Bone, Skin, Blood or DNA from Nicholas Caffell.
Marks on Nevills back and arm.
Absence of debris under the mantle shelf.
Pathologists testimony precluding such altercation causing the scratch marks.

PS: They didn't need a sample, they already took her bloodstained clothing home.

[David1819]

Muzzle imprints on Sheila's chin.
Absence of Bone, Skin, Blood or DNA from Nicholas Caffell.
Marks on Nevills back and arm.
Absence of debris under the mantle shelf.
Pathologists testimony precluding such altercation causing the scratch marks.

PS: They didn't need a sample, they already took her bloodstained clothing home.

Its worth pointing out that it was mentioned on the other thread than Ann Eaton made a conscious decision to take Sheila's bloody underwear home with her. Nobody in their right mind would do such things unless they have found a use for such a thing. Ann Eaton needed Sheila's blood for something. 

[Adam]

Muzzle imprints on Sheila's chin.
Absence of Bone, Skin, Blood or DNA from Nicholas Caffell.
Marks on Nevills back and arm.
Absence of debris under the mantle shelf.
Pathologists testimony precluding such altercation causing the scratch marks.

PS: They didn't need a sample, they already took her bloodstained clothing home.

There is no evidence the relatives fabricated the silencer. Just your own hand picked sources.

They needed the police to give them Sheila's blood as well as a mountain of other information. Straight away. Your diluted blood theory is a non starter.

[David1819]

There is no evidence the relatives fabricated the silencer. Just your own hand picked sources.

They needed the police to give them Sheila's blood as well as a mountain of other information. Straight away. Your diluted blood theory is a non starter.

More BS from you as usual.

August 7th

DC Clarke tells Ann Eaton that Nevills body was found by the AGA near the mantle shelf.

August 8th:

Ann Eaton takes Julie to the mortuary and notes down Nevills injuries after talking to Julie.

Jeremy provides a witness statement saying he left the rifle in the kitchen without the silencer on.

August 9th:

After visiting the accountant, Jeremy asks Ann Eaton to pay back the loan for the farmland that she is living on. In order to pay death duties.

Ann Eaton visits WHF with DCI and DS Jones. While there she would have seen the blue coat obscuring a certain area of the mantle shelf.

August 10th:

Relatives visit WHF again and collected the silencer and also take back home Sheila's blood stained clothing. David Boutflour does not recall seeing any blood, paint or hair on the silencer while at WHF at this stage.

Ann Eaton contacts Whitam police station about the silencer later that evening.

August 13th:

Stan Jones collects the silencer and gives it to DI Cook.

August 14th:

Ann Eaton alerts DI Cook to the scratch marks under the mantle shelf.

And so, to summarise AE had the means motive and opportunity to contaminate the sound moderator in order to incriminate JB.

They knew Jeremy said he left the rifle out without the silencer on. Thus they could seemingly contradict his statements.

They knew where Nevills body was found.
They knew Nevill had bad facial injuries.
They knew the coat was obscuring an area of the mantle from crime scene photos where they later showed the scratches to the police.
They knew there was a mess in the kitchen.
Thus they could make it seem the silencer was involved in the kitchen altercation.


They knew Sheila was shot under the chin/neck.
They had both Sheila's blood and the silencer in their possession.
They had unlimited access to the crime scene.
Thus they could make it appear she was shot with the silencer attached and a killer put it away.

[Roch]

More BS from you as usual.

August 7th

DC Clarke tells Ann Eaton that Nevills body was found by the AGA near the mantle shelf.

August 8th:

Ann Eaton takes Julie to the mortuary and notes down Nevills injuries after talking to Julie.

Jeremy provides a witness statement saying he left the rifle in the kitchen without the silencer on.

August 9th:

After visiting the accountant, Jeremy asks Ann Eaton to pay back the loan for the farmland that she is living on. In order to pay death duties.

Ann Eaton visits WHF with DCI and DS Jones. While there she would have seen the blue coat obscuring a certain area of the mantle shelf.

August 10th:

Relatives visit WHF again and collected the silencer and also take back home Sheila's blood stained clothing. David Boutflour does not recall seeing any blood, paint or hair on the silencer while at WHF at this stage.

Ann Eaton contacts Whitam police station about the silencer later that evening.

August 13th:

Stan Jones collects the silencer and gives it to DI Cook.

August 14th:

Ann Eaton alerts DI Cook to the scratch marks under the mantle shelf.

And so, to summarise AE had the means motive and opportunity to contaminate the sound moderator in order to incriminate JB.

They knew Jeremy said he left the rifle out without the silencer on. Thus they could seemingly contradict his statements.

They knew where Nevills body was found.
They knew Nevill had bad facial injuries.
They knew the coat was obscuring an area of the mantle from crime scene photos where they later showed the scratches to the police.
They knew there was a mess in the kitchen.
Thus they could make it seem the silencer was involved in the kitchen altercation.


They knew Sheila was shot under the chin/neck.
They had both Sheila's blood and the silencer in their possession.
They had unlimited access to the crime scene.
Thus they could make it appear she was shot with the silencer attached and a killer put it away.

Such a shame this kind of narrative is not given airtime. Just the usual regurgitated clichés.

[lookout]

Roch have you listened to the podcast from Dennis Eady and the team ?. Questions too this time.

[lookout]

Its worth pointing out that it was mentioned on the other thread than Ann Eaton made a conscious decision to take Sheila's bloody underwear home with her. Nobody in their right mind would do such things unless they have found a use for such a thing. Ann Eaton needed Sheila's blood for something. 

Would they have known at that stage that RWB's blood group was the same ?

[Roch]

Roch have you listened to the podcast from Dennis Eady and the team ?. Questions too this time.

No, I feel I often don't have time to listen to lengthy podcasts. Though I am interested in any new claims which are sometimes within them. Was there any interesting points which you felt stood out?

[Adam]

More BS from you as usual.

August 7th

DC Clarke tells Ann Eaton that Nevills body was found by the AGA near the mantle shelf.

August 8th:

Ann Eaton takes Julie to the mortuary and notes down Nevills injuries after talking to Julie.

Jeremy provides a witness statement saying he left the rifle in the kitchen without the silencer on.

August 9th:

After visiting the accountant, Jeremy asks Ann Eaton to pay back the loan for the farmland that she is living on. In order to pay death duties.

Ann Eaton visits WHF with DCI and DS Jones. While there she would have seen the blue coat obscuring a certain area of the mantle shelf.

August 10th:

Relatives visit WHF again and collected the silencer and also take back home Sheila's blood stained clothing. David Boutflour does not recall seeing any blood, paint or hair on the silencer while at WHF at this stage.

Ann Eaton contacts Whitam police station about the silencer later that evening.

August 13th:

Stan Jones collects the silencer and gives it to DI Cook.

August 14th:

Ann Eaton alerts DI Cook to the scratch marks under the mantle shelf.

And so, to summarise AE had the means motive and opportunity to contaminate the sound moderator in order to incriminate JB.

They knew Jeremy said he left the rifle out without the silencer on. Thus they could seemingly contradict his statements.

They knew where Nevills body was found.
They knew Nevill had bad facial injuries.
They knew the coat was obscuring an area of the mantle from crime scene photos where they later showed the scratches to the police.
They knew there was a mess in the kitchen.
Thus they could make it seem the silencer was involved in the kitchen altercation.


They knew Sheila was shot under the chin/neck.
They had both Sheila's blood and the silencer in their possession.
They had unlimited access to the crime scene.
Thus they could make it appear she was shot with the silencer attached and a killer put it away.

I asked you 37 questions o  this. You did not answer any.

Even the CT/OS have not promoted the diluted blood theory.

Unlike his 'forensic evidence breakthrough', David has not sent this theory to Bamber.