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Offline mike tesko

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« Reply #270 on: November 06, 2021, 01:54:PM »
Meanwhile ['on the far side of the moon'], 'Jeremy Bamber', his 'legal team' and the jury' were all 'deliberately conned' into 'beleiving' and 'accepting' that there only existed 'a total' of 223 case photographs, contained in a seperate photographic album, that 'Essex police' , and the 'CPS' referred to inappropriately as 'The Master Copy Album' [missing 358, other case images]..

What content 'did', 'the 358', 'withheld' case images', 'portray', which 'Essex Police' and the 'CPS' did not want 'Bamber', his 'legal team', or 'the jury' to 'see', or 'know about'?
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« Reply #271 on: November 06, 2021, 02:04:PM »
What content 'did', 'the 358', 'withheld' case images', 'portray', which 'Essex Police' and the 'CPS' did not want 'Bamber', his 'legal team', or 'the jury' to 'see', or 'know about'?

Well, for a start, it was imperitive that the other parties did not get proof that the bodies of 'June Bamber' and 'Sheila Caffell' were not photographed, laying side by side, on top of the bed, with a bible on 'Sheila Caffells' chest, and a rifle resting upon the bed inbetween both of the bodies, long before crime scene photographs placed 'June Bambers' body propped up at the man bedroom door, and with 'Sheila Caffell' laid upon the bedroom floor next to that side of the bed she had earlier been photographed laying upon..
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« Reply #272 on: November 06, 2021, 02:26:PM »
'Worse still', some 'Essex police officers' took the opportunity 'to pose next to the bodies of the three adult victims' ['Sheila', 'June' and 'Neville'] Some of the photograhs taken were in my opinion, akin to soft porn photographs [disgusting behaviour, by any bodies standards] especially around or next to 'Sheila Caffells' body..
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« Reply #273 on: November 06, 2021, 02:32:PM »
'Worse still', some 'Essex police officers' took the opportunity 'to pose next to the bodies of the three adult victims' ['Sheila', 'June' and 'Neville'] Some of the photograhs taken were in my opinion, akin to soft porn photographs [disgusting behaviour, by any bodies standards] especially around or next to 'Sheila Caffells' body..

In point of fact, 'DC Clark' was photographed on the roof of the farmhouse, with a banner, which read, ' Mick was Here'...

All of the aforementioned activities were captured on crime scene imagery [amongst the 358 photographs that were deliberately withheld from 'Jeremy', 'His legal team' and 'the JURY']..
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« Reply #274 on: November 06, 2021, 02:35:PM »
In point of fact, 'DC Clark' was photographed on the roof of the farmhouse, with a banner, which read, ' Mick was Here'...

All of the aforementioned activities were captured on crime scene imagery [amongst the 358 photographs that were deliberately withheld from 'Jeremy', 'His legal team' and 'the JURY']..

Such behaviour, is unacceptable!!
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« Reply #275 on: November 06, 2021, 02:40:PM »
I would like to point out, that four of the original six man raid party, had left the scene prior to this disgusting behaviour occurring. However, ' PI Montgomery' and 'PS Woodcock' were present at the scene during that period of abuse..
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« Reply #276 on: November 06, 2021, 02:44:PM »
He thinks the blood on the silencer documented on August the 13th was rabbit blood and the red parks marks were from ketchup.

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Who thinks that?

Bubo Bubo

This just means its a non blood stain not that it is paint. Like the brown stain which is also KM negative. She does not even suggest what made the stain and if it was paint it would need to be ingrained and she would have mentioned this aspect. Beetroot juice? tomato sauce? red wine? raspberry juice? lipstick? Need I go on?

For Christ's sake FO. You are a misleading bastard. She did not know how far in she swabbed. It is widely known that it could also have been rabbit blood. You are an utter disgrace and like many others I would be glad to see the back of you. Go and join the other Troll (Adam) under the rickety rackety bridge.
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« Reply #277 on: November 06, 2021, 03:01:PM »
Another point of contention, is that contained in the original 13 pages of 'PS Woodcocks' witness statement, two Pages have been retyped, at the point when he entered the kitchen  through 'the internal', 'back passageway door' at the 'exact moment' when according to police log entry reports, refer to, the body of 'one dead male' and 'the body' of 'one dead female' found 'upon entry to the kitchen'. My query is this - 'where is the original script' of those 'two retyped pages', and 'where are the other missing page contents'?
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« Reply #278 on: November 06, 2021, 03:42:PM »
Another point of contention, is that contained in the original 13 pages of 'PS Woodcocks' witness statement, two Pages have been retyped, at the point when he entered the kitchen  through 'the internal', 'back passageway door' at the 'exact moment' when according to police log entry reports, refer to, the body of 'one dead male' and 'the body' of 'one dead female' found 'upon entry to the kitchen'. My query is this - 'where is the original script' of those 'two retyped pages', and 'where are the other missing page contents'?
Rather 'worryingly, is the fact that once' PS Woodcock' entered the kitchen ['in which' in 'his edited version' of 'the two retyped page contents' ['pages 5' and '6'] further police radio messages [7.37am, 7.38am, 7.41am and 7.42am] were passed, between, 'members of the raid team' and 'senior officers' at 'the forward control point' in 'a nearby outbuilding', and 'exchanged messages', between, ['Senior Officers', 'at the scene' and `staff] at police Headquarters' [control room at Chelmsford Police station']  'reaffirming' that  'two bodies' (not only one) had been 'found upon entry' to 'the kitchen'. In point of fact, 'these worded messages' were 'being trasmitted' between 'police at the scene' and 'police elsewhere' [in 'whatever capacity'] that 'two bodies were found downstairs' (upon entry to the kitchen) at 'the latest' by '7.42am', an that 'by', and 'from' 8.10am, 'onward', and that 'a further three bodies' were 'found upstairs' in 'bedrooms'..
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« Reply #279 on: November 06, 2021, 04:19:PM »
Bubo Bubo

I am going to ask for you to be banned. I never said it was rabbit blood. I am saying that many people knew that there was a chance it COULD be rabbit blood. I do not care one way or the other it is of little consequence to my narrative.

The first piece is you repeating a misleading interpretation of my views on the stain.

I would ask posters to ignore this persons misleading interpretations of my views.

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« Reply #280 on: November 06, 2021, 04:42:PM »
I am going to ask for you to be banned. I never said it was rabbit blood. I am saying that many people knew that there was a chance it COULD be rabbit blood. I do not care one way or the other it is of little consequence to my narrative.

The first piece is you repeating a misleading interpretation of my views on the stain.

I would ask posters to ignore this persons misleading interpretations of my views.

Hi, 'Bubo bubo'

Please try 'not to be harsh' , the beauty about our [this forum] is that 'everyone has the opportunity to express their opinion', However there is 'no room for personel attacks'. My advice, is 'don't respond' to what 'other members say' , or 'do'...
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« Reply #281 on: November 06, 2021, 04:52:PM »
Hi, 'Bubo bubo'

Please try 'not to be harsh' , the beauty about our [this forum] is that 'everyone has the opportunity to express their opinion', However there is 'no room for personel attacks'. My advice, is 'don't respond' to what 'other members say' , or 'do'...
The problem is that this is turning into a goading issue, which is against forum rules. Moreover this is not an isolated incident as NGB is aware. and I have had to put up with this 'crap' for some time without the mildest of reprimands or short term bans. You may enjoy being a target I do not. My posts are I believe well researched and I have not had this problem with others. I regret the use of expletive language but recognise that you too are not beyond its use yourself when continually being pushed.
David 1819 is not arguing against my position he continually seeks to undermine my overall position by creating lies about my views.
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« Reply #282 on: November 06, 2021, 05:07:PM »
The problem is that this is turning into a goading issue, which is against forum rules. Moreover this is not an isolated incident as NGB is aware. and I have had to put up with this 'crap' for some time without the mildest of reprimands or short term bans. You may enjoy being a target I do not. My posts are I believe well researched and I have not had this problem with others. I regret the use of expletive language but recognise that you too are not beyond its use yourself when continually being pushed.
David 1819 is not arguing against my position he continually seeks to undermine my overall position by creating lies about my views.

 I am trying 'to understand the complexities' of 'your(s)' and 'his situation'

For the time being, I would suggest that 'you both refrain from antagonising', 'eachother'



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« Reply #283 on: November 06, 2021, 08:52:PM »
Nobody was living in the house and thus the socks remained in one place. Nobody bothered to move them.

Yes he is barking up the wrong tree. He thinks the blood on the silencer documented on August the 13th was rabbit blood and the red marks were from ketchup. The police or lab staff then swapped this for human blood and red paint from the aga shelf a month later.

If the bloodstained blue socks remained in situ then I am suprised Mrs Eaton did not recall such when she made her witness statement detailing how she found the farmhouse when DS Jones showed her around on 9th Aug but she doesn't. 

She notes the tampon applicator in the lounge and this was eventually collected by DC Bird along with the socks, soil sample, fire debris, gloves and gauntlets.  I think he also took at this time the broken stock piece. 

The carpet around the socks is bloodstained and this was removed.  The relatives later put a rug over the area and commented on how heavy the bed was to lift but no mention of the socks. 

I don't think there's anything particularly sinister in any of this but not sure why the socks were not removed on 7th Aug along with other exhibits? 
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« Reply #284 on: November 06, 2021, 10:57:PM »
If the bloodstained blue socks remained in situ then I am suprised Mrs Eaton did not recall such when she made her witness statement detailing how she found the farmhouse when DS Jones showed her around on 9th Aug but she doesn't. 

She notes the tampon applicator in the lounge and this was eventually collected by DC Bird along with the socks, soil sample, fire debris, gloves and gauntlets.  I think he also took at this time the broken stock piece. 

The carpet around the socks is bloodstained and this was removed.  The relatives later put a rug over the area and commented on how heavy the bed was to lift but no mention of the socks. 

I don't think there's anything particularly sinister in any of this but not sure why the socks were not removed on 7th Aug along with other exhibits?

I would appreciate the source for your evidence re AE. There is a lot of her stuff on the forum can you pin point for me please? Who else commented on the weight of the bed? I understood that it was tampons not the applicator (DB7) (see COLP statement sheet 983 a box of 9 Tampax).  How did she know what exhibits he had collected? Thanks