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Bamber enters main bedroom. Nevill and June are in bed. Asleep.

Bamber fires 5 shots into June. In different locations. From June's side of the bed.

Nevill starts waking while June receives her first 5 shots.

Bamber fires two face shots into Nevill while Nevill is simultaneously getting out of bed.

Bamber and Nevill are now several feet from each other. Bamber aims for the easiest target - Nevill's torso. Firing his final two shots.

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The only dissent from this has been from David. Who said there was no blood on Nevill's side of the bed. That is because the time between getting his first two shots & standing up was less than 3 seconds.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2021, 10:46:AM by Adam »
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Re: First 9 shots in the main bedroom - following the evidence:
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2021, 03:30:PM »
Bamber was nearest the bedroom door. He would be reluctant to have a fight with Nevill as it may leave him with visible injuries. So it is possible he went downstairs first to re load.

Alternatively it would not be hard for Nevill to get past Bamber. Again he would at first be trying to avoid a physical confrontation.

Once near the kitchen & with realising there would have to be a confrontation, Bamber did not hold back.
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Re: First 9 shots in the main bedroom - following the evidence:
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2021, 03:35:PM »
If Bamber went downstairs first, surely he would have had time to re load. Meaning he could shoot Nevill more times when he arrived in the kitchen and avoid the kitchen fight.

Nevill was injured & would have been moving slowly & loudly after him.

So it is more likely Nevill went downstairs first, closely followed by Bamber.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2021, 03:37:PM by Adam »
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Re: First 9 shots in the main bedroom - following the evidence:
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2021, 03:39:PM »
Adam still thinks Nevil somehow contained the blood from his wounds as he ran across the bedroom, to spill it all outside on the landing and stairs.

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Re: First 9 shots in the main bedroom - following the evidence:
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2021, 03:40:PM »
Blood on Junes side of the bed and Junes blood on bedroom floor = Shot in bedroom and bed.

No blood on Nevills side of bed and none of Nevills blood on bedroom floor = Shot outside the bedroom.

There is a trail of blood across the kitchen floor leading to Nevils body, thus you cannot argue his pajamas contained his blood while he was moving.

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Re: First 9 shots in the main bedroom - following the evidence:
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2021, 03:44:PM »
Adam still thinks Nevil somehow contained the blood from his wounds as he ran across the bedroom, to spill it all outside on the landing and stairs.

That is correct.

Nevill was shot with a rifle used for shooting rabbits.

Twice 3 seconds before he was out of bed.

Twice in the torso seconds before he left the bedroom.

No time for blood to hit the floor or bed sheets.

All straight forward.
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Re: First 9 shots in the main bedroom - following the evidence:
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2021, 03:46:PM »
Blood on Junes side of the bed and Junes blood on bedroom floor = Shot in bedroom and bed.

No blood on Nevills side of bed and none of Nevills blood on bedroom floor = Shot outside the bedroom.

There is a trail of blood across the kitchen floor leading to Nevils body, thus you cannot argue his pajamas contained his blood while he was moving.

Agree there would be Nevill's blood in the kitchen.

He had been shot 4 times upstairs, brutally beaten, shot 4 more times & put onto a coal scuttle.
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Re: First 9 shots in the main bedroom - following the evidence:
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2021, 03:48:PM »


No time for blood to hit the floor or bed sheets.

All straight forward.

Hence why Junes blood is all over the bed and carpet after being shot by the same gun.  ::)

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Re: First 9 shots in the main bedroom - following the evidence:
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2021, 03:49:PM »
Agree there would be Nevill's blood in the kitchen.

He had been shot 4 times upstairs, brutally beaten, shot 4 more times & put onto a coal scuttle.

Im talking about the trail he left before that

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Re: First 9 shots in the main bedroom - following the evidence:
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2021, 03:51:PM »
Nevill also had other options upstairs, if Bamber had gone downstairs first.

He could check on June, Sheila & the twins and decide on a defence tactic when Bamber went upstairs. Going downstairs would also use up vital energy for an injured man.

It seems certain Nevill went downstairs first, while in trying to stay alive mode. A natural reaction.
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Re: First 9 shots in the main bedroom - following the evidence:
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2021, 03:53:PM »
Hence why Junes blood is all over the bed and carpet after being shot by the same gun.  ::)

June crawled along the carpet & died there. She was shot 5 times in bed & stayed there for a long period before the pain woke her.

Nevill didn't.
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Re: First 9 shots in the main bedroom - following the evidence:
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2021, 03:58:PM »
June crawled along the carpet & died there. She was shot 5 times in bed & stayed there for a long period before the pain woke her.

Nevill didn't.

So Nevill ran so quick out the bedroom none of his blood ended up on the carpet. But there was blood on stairs and landing. That must have been due to Nevill having a breather after running so fast.

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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2021, 03:58:PM »
So Nevill ran so quick out the bedroom none of his blood ended up on the carpet. But there was blood on stairs and landing. That must have been due to Nevill having a breather after running so fast.

It all makes sense now.  Thanks David.

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Re: First 9 shots in the main bedroom - following the evidence:
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2021, 03:58:PM »
Im talking about the trail he left before that

He was in the main bedroom for seconds while simultaneously being shot.

Not enough time for blood to drip from his head and torso.
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Re: First 9 shots in the main bedroom - following the evidence:
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2021, 04:04:PM »
So Nevill ran so quick out the bedroom none of his blood ended up on the carpet. But there was blood on stairs and landing. That must have been due to Nevill having a breather after running so fast.

People tend to run quickly when already shot and being shot at. Adreleline & trying to stay alive does that to people.

There is a slim chance a small amount of blood would fall onto the stairs. But the carpets were burnt.
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