The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series - Season 1

[Roch]

Yes it’s the same question I’ve asked, I’m also dubious about the claim Bamber passed Rivlin a note, he had chance to put this to the Police on numerous occasions during his interviews, something as important as this wouldn’t slip your mind.  He’s had umpteen interviews with Rivlin and he passes him a note about seeing someone at the Window at trial?  Rivlin would have followed this up if he had been told by Bamber about this at any stage.  Not only that, Bamber himself had chance when he was on the stand to say he or they saw someone in the Window etc.

The way it's been put across is that JB was frustrated that Rivlin didn't pursue these types of lines of defence. Hence at trial, the note was passed in frustration, on order to prompt Rivlin. Rivlin then goes on to handle the questioning in a way which simply lets Bews off the hook. Everyone has a bad day at work. Rivlin had a mare.

[Adam]

Yes it’s the same question I’ve asked, I’m also dubious about the claim Bamber passed Rivlin a note, he had chance to put this to the Police on numerous occasions during his interviews, something as important as this wouldn’t slip your mind.  He’s had umpteen interviews with Rivlin and he passes him a note about seeing someone at the Window at trial?  Rivlin would have followed this up if he had been told by Bamber about this at any stage.  Not only that, Bamber himself had chance when he was on the stand to say he or they saw someone in the Window etc.

Bamber passed Rivlin a note.

The trial was a year after his arrest. Plenty of time for Bamber to discuss it with his lawyers.

[ngb1066]

The way it's been put across is that JB was frustrated that Rivlin didn't pursue these types of lines of defence. Hence at trial, the note was passed in frustration, on order to prompt Rivlin. Rivlin then goes on to handle the questioning in a way which simply lets Bews off the hook. Everyone has a bad day at work. Rivlin had a mare.

I had not heard about this note.  Where does that information come from?  I have to say I am uneasy about this, for several reasons.

[guest7363]

The way it's been put across is that JB was frustrated that Rivlin didn't pursue these types of lines of defence. Hence at trial, the note was passed in frustration, on order to prompt Rivlin. Rivlin then goes on to handle the questioning in a way which simply lets Bews off the hook. Everyone has a bad day at work. Rivlin had a mare.

Ok, he’s had numerous chances to get this across before hand Roch, look if someone accused me of being the murderer and I’m outside with the Police and we see someone at the window that’s the biggest proof I’ve got,  it’s a game changer, do I keep quite and never mention it in my defence, would I say this on Oath to defend myself, Sod  Rivlin this is me on trial.  Why would Rivlin let Bews off?

[Roch]

I had not heard about this note.  Where does that information come from?  I have to say I am uneasy about this, for several reasons.

Hi ngb, I'm not sure when I first heard it mentioned but it was a few years ago to be sure. It is something the CT claim now. So I don't know whether the source is JB himself or whether something was discovered regarding the trial transcript. Maybe Bill might know, if he's reading this.

[guest7363]

I had not heard about this note.  Where does that information come from?  I have to say I am uneasy about this, for several reasons.

Its an inventory to an Hurdle and that’s what bugs me.  The more things get invented the less I believe him.

[guest7363]

Was he questioned about this?

As it was JB had to pass a note to his defense at trial, but Rivlin let Bews off lightly by suggesting it was a trick of the light.

Can I ask you Rob where you got this information from?

[Adam]

Can I ask you Rob where you got this information from?

Lookout told him.

[lookout]

Lookout told him.

Lookout didn't tell him----I knew nothing about this.

[ngb1066]

Hi ngb, I'm not sure when I first heard it mentioned but it was a few years ago to be sure. It is something the CT claim now. So I don't know whether the source is JB himself or whether something was discovered regarding the trial transcript. Maybe Bill might know, if he's reading this.

It certainly would not appear in the trial transcript.  I would be very interested to know where this came from because it was certainly not something discussed when I was involved directly in the case.  It has not featured in either of the appeals or in the 2012 submissions to the CCRC.

[guest7363]

It certainly would not appear in the trial transcript.  I would be very interested to know where this came from because it was certainly not something discussed when I was involved directly in the case.  It has not featured in either of the appeals or in the 2012 submissions to the CCRC.

I was just checking the appeals going through them, thanks for that I won’t bother, that answers my next question NGB.

[Roch]

It certainly would not appear in the trial transcript.  I would be very interested to know where this came from because it was certainly not something discussed when I was involved directly in the case.  It has not featured in either of the appeals or in the 2012 submissions to the CCRC.

I don't doubt what you say. I'm not sure how we could find out any further info on it.

[JackieD]

I don't doubt what you say. I'm not sure how we could find out any further info on it.

Definitely Bill

[guest7363]

Bamber passed Rivlin a note.

The trial was a year after his arrest. Plenty of time for Bamber to discuss it with his lawyers.

Why does Bamber change his story so Quickly, when he phoned West he specifically says that his father said, you’ve got to help me, my father has just phoned me saying “Please come over, your sister has gone crazy and has the gun” then the phone went dead.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6845.0;attach=41408

Myself I think that is significant wording and supposed to be not long after receiving the telephone call?

Yet every interview after he drops the “Please come over” part?  He also never mentions this when Bews asks him to go through things.  Could it be he realises he’s dropped a clanger by not dialling 999, dropping the please come over lowers the cry for help so it gives him riddle room?

[killingeve]

Why does Bamber change his story so Quickly, when he phoned West he specifically says that his father said, you’ve got to help me, my father has just phoned me saying “Please come over, your sister has gone crazy and has the gun” then the phone went dead.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6845.0;attach=41408

Myself I think that is significant wording and supposed to be not long after receiving the telephone call?

Yet every interview after he drops the “Please come over” part?  He also never mentions this when Bews asks him to go through things.  Could it be he realises he’s dropped a clanger by not dialling 999, dropping the please come over lowers the cry for help so it gives him riddle room?

How can you be sure what he definitely said to PC West?  The calls were not recorded so you're reliant upon PC West's recollections.