The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series - Season 1

[guest7363]

It's in Saxby's statement RJ

"About five minutes latter all three came running back from the direction of the farmhouse and Pc BEWS contacted Information room and requested armed assistance and gave a situation report"

I would like to know what was in this report?

Oh right I’m with you 👍. You mean whether they said they’d seen someone or not at the window and how they addressed it.

[lookout]

Oh right I’m with you 👍. You mean whether they said they’d seen someone or not at the window and how they addressed it.

Original handwritten notes is what we need to see.

[killingeve]

Oh right I’m with you 👍. You mean whether they said they’d seen someone or not at the window and how they addressed it.

If they saw someone at the window then why did Bamber leave out of his witness statements, police interviews and trial? 

[killingeve]

Original handwritten notes is what we need to see.

Common sesne tells you that if anything remarkable was seen at the window then Bamber would have said as much in his witness statement, police interviews and at trial.

Furthermore the firearms team would have been made aware of such before entering the farmhouse.  When Bamber drew the layout of the farmhouse identifying the firearms etc he would have said we saw someone in x window. 

[Rob_]

Oh right I’m with you 👍. You mean whether they said they’d seen someone or not at the window and how they addressed it.

Yes I expect this report was quite colourful, as it's the reason armed police are requested.

[Rob_]

If they saw someone at the window then why did Bamber leave out of his witness statements, police interviews and trial?

Gosh JB at trial passed a note to Rivlin to question Brews on this matter, but Rivlin himself suggested it was a reflection and let him off lightly!

[killingeve]

Yes I expect this report was quite colourful, as it's the reason armed police are requested.

No it isn't.  Firearms were called because Bamber claimed he received a phone call from his father saying Sheilas going crazy and shes got the gun.  He then went on to elaborate about her mental health and all the firearms and ammunition within the farmhouse.  When officers arrived lights were on and the only sounds were dogs barking.  What would you do in such a situation? 

[Rob_]

No it isn't.  Firearms were called because Bamber claimed he received a phone call from his father saying Sheilas going crazy and shes got the gun.  He then went on to elaborate about her mental health and all the firearms and ammunition within the farmhouse.  When officers arrived lights were on and the only sounds were dogs barking.  What would you do in such a situation?

No armed assistance was called after Bews & co ran back to the car, read Saxby's statement you are getting like Adam twisting everything.

[killingeve]

Gosh JB at trial passed a note to Rivlin to question Brews on this matter, but Rivlin himself suggested it was a reflection and let him off lightly!

Where's the evidence Bamber instigated this and it wasn't part of Rivlin's strategy? 

Defence lawyers are there to sow seeds of doubt in the jurors' minds!  He went as far as he could with the 'trick of the light' but the jury still found Bamber guilty!  Bamber didn't even attempt to use this at his 2002 appeal. 

[killingeve]

No armed assistance was called after Bews & co ran back to the car, read Saxby's statement you are getting like Adam twisting everything.

When was it called then if not after Bews and co went back to the car?

[lookout]

Common sesne tells you that if anything remarkable was seen at the window then Bamber would have said as much in his witness statement, police interviews and at trial.

Furthermore the firearms team would have been made aware of such before entering the farmhouse.  When Bamber drew the layout of the farmhouse identifying the firearms etc he would have said we saw someone in x window.

Not everyone has common sense though do they ? Though in this case it was more sinister.
 Millbank of the firearms team was never asked to give evidence.

[killingeve]

Not everyone has common sense though do they ? Though in this case it was more sinister.
 Millbank of the firearms team was never asked to give evidence.

Hopefully they do when dealing with cases involving firearms.

Why would Millbank of the firearms team be asked to provide evidence? 

[lookout]

Hopefully they do when dealing with cases involving firearms.

Why would Millbank of the firearms team be asked to provide evidence?

Why not, when he'd known about the figure in the window ?

[killingeve]

Why not, when he'd known about the figure in the window ?

Who?  Millbank?  Source please?

[killingeve]

No armed assistance was called after Bews & co ran back to the car, read Saxby's statement you are getting like Adam twisting everything.

You're the twister! 

"About five minutes later all three came running back from the direction of the farmhouse and PS Bews contacted Information Room and requested armed assistance and gave a situation report."