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« Reply #930 on: September 01, 2021, 05:07:PM »
Four minutes in and they claim Sheila rang 999 for an ambulance at 6:09am.

Anyone reading Rowe or Burnells statements will know that never happened. Its on record that the police called for the ambulances.

This is either gross incompetence by the CT or wilful misrepresentation.
Who cares anymore? The superfluity of claims only marks their sheer desperation as to attracting attention at any cost.
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« Reply #931 on: September 01, 2021, 05:12:PM »
Maybe it was Nevill ringing 999 at 6.09am. Chasing up his earlier call 3 hours earlier.

Nevill had realised Jeremy was not attending after he phoned him.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #932 on: September 01, 2021, 06:48:PM »
Four minutes in and they claim Sheila rang 999 for an ambulance at 6:09am. This is either gross incompetence by the CT or wilful misrepresentation.
It’s neither. There is documentation that has not been released yet into the public domain to support the contention that a 999 phone call was made from WHF at 06:09. It is assumed that Sheila was the only person alive at that time inside the house. Presumably the documents will be revealed during the appeal.

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« Reply #933 on: September 01, 2021, 06:51:PM »
It’s neither. There is documentation that has not been released yet into the public domain to support the contention that a 999 phone call was made from WHF at 06:09. It is assumed that Sheila was the only person alive at that time inside the house. Presumably the documents will be revealed during the appeal.
Fortunately nobody believes a word Bill Robertson says anymore.

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« Reply #934 on: September 01, 2021, 07:24:PM »
Anyone given the latest one a twirl?

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-telephone-issues-resolved/id1555731881?i=1000533944875




Latest podcast very interesting, though I do remember some years back that Mike had posted about officers using the kitchen phone----after wiping it.

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« Reply #935 on: September 01, 2021, 07:48:PM »
It’s neither. There is documentation that has not been released yet into the public domain to support the contention that a 999 phone call was made from WHF at 06:09. It is assumed that Sheila was the only person alive at that time inside the house. Presumably the documents will be revealed during the appeal.

Bullshit. We already know what happened at 06:09am and this idea of a 999 call is nothing but a misinterpretation of the document below.

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« Reply #936 on: September 01, 2021, 07:56:PM »
Who is the officer who, when interviewed by Met police, expressed 'I didn't think there would be any record of that'? It was words to that effect and he was referring to the incident in question.

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« Reply #937 on: September 01, 2021, 07:57:PM »
Fortunately nobody believes a word Bill Robertson says anymore.

Bit of a sweeping statement that Steve.

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« Reply #938 on: September 01, 2021, 08:26:PM »
It’s neither. There is documentation that has not been released yet into the public domain to support the contention that a 999 phone call was made from WHF at 06:09. It is assumed that Sheila was the only person alive at that time inside the house. Presumably the documents will be revealed during the appeal.

If a phone is off the cradle would a operator be able to path a line through?

If the receiver would have to be replaced first this could be very interesting?

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« Reply #939 on: September 01, 2021, 08:36:PM »
If a phone is off the cradle would a operator be able to path a line through?

If the receiver would have to be replaced first this could be very interesting?




The operator would have dealt with any calls coming through as back then operators manned the phone lines whether on or off the hook.

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« Reply #940 on: September 01, 2021, 08:45:PM »
If the police hadn't dithered for 3+ hours outside the farmhouse, they'd have saved a life !

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« Reply #941 on: September 01, 2021, 09:56:PM »



The operator would have dealt with any calls coming through as back then operators manned the phone lines whether on or off the hook.


Thanks, I know if the caller puts the phone down on the cradle to end the call but the person receiving the call does not then the person who received the call can hold the line open. A lot of scammers use this trick.

I was not sure if the operator can path into a line that is busy or off the cradle.

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« Reply #942 on: September 01, 2021, 10:05:PM »

Thanks, I know if the caller puts the phone down on the cradle to end the call but the person receiving the call does not then the person who received the call can hold the line open. A lot of scammers use this trick.

I was not sure if the operator can path into a line that is busy or off the cradle.





With the older PBX system the operator would know if the handset was returned on its cradle after a call, otherwise if  it wasn't, a recorded voice would remind the caller to " please replace the receiver".

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« Reply #943 on: September 02, 2021, 06:32:AM »
Bit of a sweeping statement that Steve.
I won't have new members brainwashed. Older members can make their own minds up.

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« Reply #944 on: September 02, 2021, 08:18:AM »
I won't have new members brainwashed. Older members can make their own minds up.

For new members because Steve and Adam are trying to brainwash them with lies and untruths


Mugford's evidence was crucial to the prosecution's case.

Mugford testified against him after police decided to drop investigations into criminal offences she had allegedly committed before the trial.

Documents disclosed to Bamber detail how Mugford was accused of burglary, smuggling cannabis into the UK from Canada and cheque fraud.

The Guardian has seen a letter from the then assistant director of public prosecutions (DPP) , John Walker, to the chief constable of Essex, which stated: "With considerable hesitation I would suggest that Mugford be advised she will not be prosecuted in respect of these matters – burglary, cheque fraud and cannabis offences.

Thereafter she will be called as a witness against Bamber." Further documents relating to the dealings between the DPP and Mugford remain undisclosed under public interest immunity rules.

Julie provided Essex police with seven witness statements, however, these were not disclosed, and extracts from them made up a ‘served copy’ which was given to the defence and the 1986 trial.

The served copy omitted the majority of her criminal activities and focused on accusations against Jeremy.

According to Julie’s 8th of September 1985 witness statement Julie asked Jeremy if he loved her, to which he replied that he didn’t know and they discussed their relationship.

At one point of the conversation she said to Jeremy: “I told him I couldn’t hurt myself anymore and didn’t know what I would do and he asked me to promise not to kill myself. I told him I couldn’t promise anything.”

According to the same witness statement, they returned to her flat and whilst there Julie: “told him that I would really love to hurt him and told him that I had tried to stab the teddy bear he had given to me as a present.” She also admitted: “I asked Jeremy never to leave me because I was frightened and he said he would never leave me as there would always be a place in his heart.

We then went to bed. We didn’t sleep well and at one point I got a pillow and put it over his head. I took it off and he asked me why I did it and I said if he were dead he would always be with me.”



Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000