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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #645 on: May 21, 2021, 09:13:AM »
Just finished listening to the latest podcast focusing on Anne Eaton.
I've met some scheming vindictive women in my lifetime, but Mrs Eaton takes the biscuit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD6eUScfo9w&t=3s

A strong component of her suspicions seems to have been an exaggerated sense of entitlement. I cannot understand why ACC Simpson acquiesced to her dad's demands. Maybe Simpson thought that a failed prosecution attempt would get the relatives off his back and leave Taff and Jeremy in the clear. But that suggests he hadn't factored in the zeal of Ainsley and Stan Jones. It's all very odd. Maybe instead, because of whatever happened in the farmhouse and Bobby's insistence on going ever higher, Simpson told Ainsley that no method was off the table and that he needed to get the conviction by hook or by crook.

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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #646 on: May 21, 2021, 10:17:AM »
Just finished listening to the latest podcast focusing on Anne Eaton.
I've met some scheming vindictive women in my lifetime, but Mrs Eaton takes the biscuit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD6eUScfo9w&t=3s




You're telling me. Like father like daughter, a good pair together, scheming individuals.

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« Reply #647 on: May 21, 2021, 10:21:AM »



You're telling me. Like father like daughter..

I've always thought that. Did you hear the part where all Jeremy's complaints were shown to the relatives, so they could formulate responses etc?

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« Reply #648 on: May 21, 2021, 01:01:PM »
I've always thought that. Did you hear the part where all Jeremy's complaints were shown to the relatives, so they could formulate responses etc?





That was obvious by all their matching WS's.

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« Reply #649 on: May 21, 2021, 05:38:PM »
Just finished listening to the latest podcast focusing on Anne Eaton.
I've met some scheming vindictive women in my lifetime, but Mrs Eaton takes the biscuit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD6eUScfo9w&t=3s

She is my prime suspect for contaminating the silencer with blood and paint. For a wide range of reasons.

She either acted alone or with RWB. But I suspect the former.
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« Reply #650 on: May 21, 2021, 06:14:PM »
She is my prime suspect for contaminating the silencer with blood and paint. For a wide range of reasons.

She either acted alone or with RWB. But I suspect the former.

How much did Ann Eaton know about guns?  Did she ever use a rifle?  Could she take a silencer apart on her own?

We know exactly what contaminating the silencer with blood would involve, because we have the FSS findings.  It would require somebody to take the baffles out, drip blood on the outside of the baffles, let the blood dry, then re-thread the baffles into the silencer.  This would take at least a few minutes.  Where did she do this?

My view is that, if - if - the silencer was contaminated, it was Robert and David, without Ann's knowledge or involvement, it was done at Robert's house, and Robert used his own blood.  I don't believe they could have trusted Ann to keep quiet about it.  It was something they could never discuss again, even between themselves, and would have to take to their graves.

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« Reply #651 on: May 21, 2021, 06:25:PM »
How much did Ann Eaton know about guns?  Did she ever use a rifle?  Could she take a silencer apart on her own?

We know exactly what contaminating the silencer with blood would involve, because we have the FSS findings.  It would require somebody to take the baffles out, drip blood on the outside of the baffles, let the blood dry, then re-thread the baffles into the silencer.  This would take at least a few minutes.  Where did she do this?

My view is that, if - if - the silencer was contaminated, it was Robert and David, without Ann's knowledge or involvement, it was done at Robert's house, and Robert used his own blood.  I don't believe they could have trusted Ann to keep quiet about it.  It was something they could never discuss again, even between themselves, and would have to take to their graves.

I plan to make a detailed post on why i think it was Ann Eaton, but it will take some time.

IIRC Ann Eaton and her husband sold guns at one point.
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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #652 on: May 21, 2021, 06:59:PM »
I plan to make a detailed post on why i think it was Ann Eaton, but it will take some time.

IIRC Ann Eaton and her husband sold guns at one point.

Thank goodness for that.

After about 6 years you are finally going to say how the relatives put diluted period blood into a silencer.

Better late than never.
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« Reply #653 on: May 21, 2021, 07:02:PM »
I plan to make a detailed post on why i think it was Ann Eaton, but it will take some time.

IIRC Ann Eaton and her husband sold guns at one point.

Peter Eaton was definitely a gun dealer, but I am not aware that Ann Eaton had any real experience with guns.  It would require somebody to know how to dismantle and re-assemble a silencer, and also to appreciate the particular evidential significance of the silencer in the first place.

Peter Eaton could do it.  I think Robert and David could. 

It does occur to me that Peter and Ann may have collaborated, but a David/Robert collaboration makes more sense to me, simply because of the recorded blood group.

Although I don't believe it would have mattered whose blood was put in the silencer as long as it was human, I think Sheila's blood group was known to the relatives anyway, and Robert knew he was the same blood group. This was in the days before DNA was mainstream knowledge, and the implications of genetic testing would not have been appreciated by the relatives (or even the police and FSS).

Other facts favouring Robert/David are:

- Robert, in his own frank diurnal confessions, hated Jeremy.
- Robert spearheaded the pressure on the police.
- Robert is the one who reported the silencer to the police.
- Peter and Ann had custody of the silencer and handed it to the police, meaning that David and Robert were at one remove from the exhibit and would have felt less nervous about contaminating it.
- David, on his own evidence, was the first to examine the silencer.
- David states he tampered with the silencer by removing blood from it.
- Peter will have informed David about the significance of the silencer.
- Both Robert and David would know how to dismantle and re-assemble the silencer.
- Both Robert and David would have had an opportunity to contaminate the silencer without arousing the suspicions of Peter and Ann.  They knew what to do and it would have taken minutes.

I don't believe a conspiracy of this kind would have involved more than two people.

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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #654 on: May 21, 2021, 07:07:PM »
David would need to explain how the relatives found out -

Sheila's arm lenght.

The rifle lenght with silencer.

What murder weapon was used.

Whether the silencer they have chosen was compatible with the murder weapon.

Different positions Sheila could have shot herself.

What back splatter is.

Who received contact shots.

What locations would contact shots need to be to produce back splatter.

Where were the contact shots on everyone.

Is there any other forensic evidence against Sheila.

How to put diluted period blood into a silencer.

Had the police already checked all silencers at WHF.

The chance of this getting a conviction.

The punishment if caught doing this.

Was there a kitchen fight.

How to effectively scratch the aga.

What the kitchen crime scene photos show.

Was a silencer found by Sheila's body or at the crime scene.

What blood group was Sheila.

How can they find Sheila's blood group to put in the silencer.

Were the police already gathering evidence against Bamber.

Agree in unison to do this. Then never retract a word of their WS.

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David will not answer & post the same pasted 'Gish Gash' paragraph. Whatever that is supposed to mean.
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« Reply #655 on: May 21, 2021, 07:11:PM »
David would need to explain how the relatives found out -

Sheila's arm lenght.

The rifle lenght with silencer.

Different positions Sheila could have shot herself.

What back splatter is.

Who received contact shots.

What locations would contact shots need to be to produce back splatter.

Where were the contact shots on everyone.

Is there any other forensic evidence against Sheila.

How to put diluted period blood into a silencer.

Had the police already checked all silencers at WHF.

The chance of this getting a conviction.

The punishment if caught doing this.

Was there a kitchen fight.

How to effectively scratch the aga.

What the kitchen crime scene photos show.

Was a silencer found by Sheila's body or at the crime scene.

What blood group was Sheila.

How can they find Sheila's blood group to put in the silencer.

Were the police already gathering evidence against Bamber.

Agree in unison to do this. Then never retract a word of their WS.

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David will not answer & post the same pasted 'Gish Gash' paragraph. Whatever that is supposed to mean.

But they wouldn't need to know all that.  You're assuming that a conspiracy requires perfect knowledge, which is a fallacy.

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« Reply #656 on: May 21, 2021, 07:12:PM »
But they wouldn't need to know all that.  You're assuming that a conspiracy requires perfect knowledge, which is a fallacy.

What would they not need to find out?
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #657 on: May 21, 2021, 11:31:PM »



You're telling me. Like father like daughter, a good pair together, scheming individuals.

I cannot even bear to listen to it.

The women that moved into WHF after her beloved’ relatives died there

Just so unreal
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #658 on: May 22, 2021, 05:26:AM »
What would they not need to find out?

Question open to everyone. QC did not answer. 
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #659 on: May 22, 2021, 09:39:AM »
David would need to explain how the relatives found out -

Sheila's arm lenght.

The rifle lenght with silencer.

Different positions Sheila could have shot herself.

What back splatter is.

Who received contact shots.

What locations would contact shots need to be to produce back splatter.

Where were the contact shots on everyone.

Is there any other forensic evidence against Sheila.

How to put diluted period blood into a silencer.

Had the police already checked all silencers at WHF.

The chance of this getting a conviction.

The punishment if caught doing this.

Was there a kitchen fight.

How to effectively scratch the aga.

What the kitchen crime scene photos show.

Was a silencer found by Sheila's body or at the crime scene.

What blood group was Sheila.

How can they find Sheila's blood group to put in the silencer.

Were the police already gathering evidence against Bamber.

Agree in unison to do this. Then never retract a word of their WS.

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David will not answer & post the same pasted 'Gish Gash' paragraph. Whatever that is supposed to mean.

Perhaps the police said 'just put some blood in the sound moderator and we'll do the rest'.  Or even, 'just leave it all to us'.