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Offline Steve_uk

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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #420 on: April 21, 2021, 10:26:PM »
The new podcasts don't wash with me. If only the Defence could admit for one moment that there was a modicum of animosity between Jeremy, his parents and his sister it would have rung truer. Instead everything was sweetness and light and Jeremy is such a wronged, misunderstood figure. Even in the second new podcast where the Defence plays its strongest card there are inaccuracies and omissions: we are not told that by August 1985 Colin was in de facto control of the boys and June was in the process of arranging an annual allowance for Sheila to enable her to budget responsibly and offering her a degree of. independence thereby. https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/

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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #421 on: April 22, 2021, 11:09:AM »
Steve so far as I understand the podcasts are legally backed and whatever is said there's information to support it. As for the CCRC submissions there's the added information between the sections/ titles of each issue that's been laid out. It's these  " unseen "additions that we'll probably learn more about as things hopefully move on towards an appeal.

I would have said that if anyone had been misunderstood it was Sheila herself. Teenage years in girls are, can be, challenging times and June wasn't prepared for what she had to face when Sheila was growing up-----already traumatised from adoption, then when June got ill the child was in someone else's hands and generally passed around like a parcel without the  same stability that Jeremy had experienced after adoption.
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You've only to look back on Sheila's school years, working years etc. The girl wasn't settled in anything.
Sadly, Dr Ferguson hadn't been told the full extent of Sheila's problems because nobody was forthcoming about her behaviour and it was only latterly that Ferguson realised that Sheila was more ill than he first realised. Without clinical follow-ups, support and having had reduced medication it could only end in disaster.

Any money that Sheila would have received from her mother obviously went in the wrong direction.

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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #422 on: April 22, 2021, 12:50:PM »
The new podcasts don't wash with me. If only the Defence could admit for one moment that there was a modicum of animosity between Jeremy, his parents and his sister it would have rung truer. Instead everything was sweetness and light and Jeremy is such a wronged, misunderstood figure. Even in the second new podcast where the Defence plays its strongest card there are inaccuracies and omissions: we are not told that by August 1985 Colin was in de facto control of the boys and June was in the process of arranging an annual allowance for Sheila to enable her to budget responsibly and offering her a degree of. independence thereby. https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/

Surely they are not saying his relationship with his family was lovie dovie.

He testified he had a poor relationship with June. He had no relationship with Sheila and the twins and said he did not understand her illness.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #423 on: April 22, 2021, 06:00:PM »
So, lets sum up Roch and Bills conspiracy theory -

After Sheila shot June five times, June got up and blood ran and dripped all over her nightdress and the carpet below but not on Junes legs. The blood on Junes legs are actually the result of a subsequent struggle were-by Sheila is cutting Junes legs while June is inflicting 28 wounds on Sheila's arm, in an altercation that would resemble a violent game of twister.

When Sheila was committing suicide, She shot herself under the chin and neck while sitting up as blood spilled and dripped from her wounds down her night dress but not on her arm that would be right under her neck wounds as she pressed the trigger. They are actually 28 wounds inflicted earlier, they just so happen to look like blood runs and just so happen to be in the exact place you would expect blood stains to run down from the two gunshot wounds.

Ainsley and Co then got Vanezis to alter his original autopsy notes and got the lab to omit June Bambers blood group from Sheila's nightdress. Vanezis then lied in court as huge blow up photos of these wounds were presented in the court room in-front of everyone. The defence pathologist present in the court room failed to notice them and agreed with Vanezis conclusions. Four other experts have also failed to notice them as June Bamber managed to inflict 28 wounds that happen to look like bloodstains, this was very convenient for Ainsleys conspiracy.

It was not until 30 years later, a conspiracy theorist affiliated with JBs campaign team, who has a track record of debunked and poorly thought out theories noticed the Ainsley-Vanesiz coverup.

Wow this will blow the CCRC away and JB will be out in no time!  ::)  ::)  ::)




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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #424 on: April 22, 2021, 07:15:PM »
Surely they are not saying his relationship with his family was lovie dovie.

He testified he had a poor relationship with June. He had no relationship with Sheila and the twins and said he did not understand her illness.
Did you not hear the conversational podcast between Yvonne Hartley and Heidi Hawkins? No mention of any strife in the Bamber household, no mention of Barbara Wilson's evidence that Nevill feared for his life, no mention of James Richards' testimony at trial. https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/
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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #425 on: April 22, 2021, 07:19:PM »
Did you not hear the conversational podcast between Yvonne Hartley and Heidi Hawkins? No mention of any strife in the Bamber household, no mention of Barbara Wilson's evidence that Nevill feared for his life, no mention of James Richards' testimony at trial. https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/

Next they will be saying Jeremy visited bible classes with June.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #426 on: April 22, 2021, 08:03:PM »
So, lets sum up Roch and Bills conspiracy theory...

If the CCRC reject the latest submissions, that won't change the fact that there were fight wounds on all three adults, as well as smears etc. Even if Vanezis was backed, that wouldn't change anything in real terms. It wouldn't magic away any nicks, cuts or grazes on the bodies. It would just mean that PV was being backed. Nothing more, nothing less.

Regarding the marks on June's shins. In what position would she need to be in, in order to deposit isolated marks such as those?

Regarding Sheila's wrist / forearm. Let's assume that the circumference is narrow. That equates to a very small surface area for streams of blood to travel accross and suddenly stop / congeal. That doesn't work for me.
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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #427 on: April 22, 2021, 08:19:PM »
Next they will be saying Jeremy visited bible classes with June.

Thanks Adam.  This is new information.

It's good that you are keeping a look out and bringing this new evidence on to the Forum.

Certain people on here should be more open-minded, like you are.  They should PM you for moral support.

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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #428 on: April 23, 2021, 12:43:AM »
Regarding Sheila's wrist / forearm. Let's assume that the circumference is narrow. That equates to a very small surface area for streams of blood to travel accross and suddenly stop / congeal. That doesn't work for me.



I have already explained this to you
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8526.msg406660.html#msg406660


Are you saying the wall below in the second image has been cut?

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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #429 on: April 23, 2021, 12:47:AM »
If the CCRC reject the latest submissions, that won't change the fact that there were fight wounds on all three adults, as well as smears etc.

Its not a fact. Its a conspiracy theory, one that's easily refuted.
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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #430 on: April 23, 2021, 12:53:AM »

Regarding the marks on June's shins. In what position would she need to be in, in order to deposit isolated marks such as those?


Since she was walking around the bed with blood running down her and dripping blood over the carpet as she walked. It dosent take a rocket scientist to work out the blood got there as she put one leg infront the other.

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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #431 on: April 23, 2021, 05:41:AM »
Vanezis then lied in court as huge blow up photos of these wounds were presented in the court room in-front of everyone.
Really? Were you in Court? There were no "blow up" photos shown in Court.
Your infantile posts are unworthy of any attention.

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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #432 on: April 23, 2021, 08:49:AM »
Whose hand was around June and Sheila's neck to have left indentations/ prints ? These prints should have been measured to distinguish whether they were male or female prints, which would have given height and weight of the offender if they'd been examined.
Scrapings from beneath fingernails were never taken or recorded.
The piece of broken toe-nail of Sheila's was never tested. You can only damage a toe-nail by dashing around and ramming it into a hard object. Why was it found downstairs ?

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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #433 on: April 23, 2021, 08:52:AM »
Whose hand was around June and Sheila's neck to have left indentations/ prints ? These prints should have been measured to distinguish whether they were male or female prints, which would have given height and weight of the offender if they'd been examined.
Scrapings from beneath fingernails were never taken or recorded.
The piece of broken toe-nail of Sheila's was never tested. You can only damage a toe-nail by dashing around and ramming it into a hard object. Why was it found downstairs ?

How do you know it was Sheila's toe nail?

WHF was not the cleanest place. Nevill had been downstairs, bare footed, fighting for his life that night.
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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #434 on: April 23, 2021, 08:56:AM »
There is no mention of toe nails in the COA. Hopefully Lookout can provide the source.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.