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Reason why the "Silicost Impression" taken from under mantelpiece, was taken?

Cast of impression was taken on 1st October 1985, by Scientists, Mr Elliot, who was told by DI Cook (SOC) in the presence of DS Davidson, that the marks under the mantelpiece had been made by a guns barrel coming into contact with it, not a silencer...

These same marks were photographed by PC Bird (SOC) on the underside of the mantelpiece on 12th September 1985...

A paint sample, RC/1 was taken at the scene from the mantelpiece by DI Cook, on 8th August 1985, because it was thought that paint which had been found on a guns barrel (not a silencer) came from the mantelpiece and that the gun in question, which was a gun that the police found downstairs at the scene, had received a hard knock and become damaged?

8th August 1985 - gun with paint on end of barrel found downstairs, caused police to take a paint sample with a view to matching it to the mantelpiece...

12th September 1985 - PC Bird (SOC) takes photographs of "damaged aga" at scene...

1st October 1985 - Scientist, Mr Elliot, told to take casts of marks found on underside of mantelpiece, and that those marks had been made by a guns barrel (not a silencer) which had come into contact with it...

EVIDENCE, was thus, modified to include suggestion that silencer was fitted to guns barrel at the time of a purported struggle between Ralph Bamber and his killer, and alterations to exhibits references, and the times these were taken had also to be altered to accommodate this new approach...

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I have identified the relevant parts of DS Davidson interviews at the hands of COLP in 1991, which deals with these matters which point to the fact that the paint sample was originally associated to the barrel of a gun that was found downstairs at the scene, not to a silencer...

This is an important discovery, which should go a long way towards exposing how the silencer, blood and paint was falsely introduced to bolster up the prosecutions case, with a view to convicting Jeremy Bamber for murders that he could not and did not commit...

I intend to post the relevant extracts, here...
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Extracted details from interview of DS Neil Davidson, by COLP, on 16th October 1991, at Snow Hill Police station, Exhibit AH/2, consisting of 69 pages - pages, 48, 49, 50, 51 and 52, attached for reference:-

Establishing that paint found on guns barrel, and that this was the reason why paint sample, RC/1, was taken by DI Cook on 8th August 1985, at the scene...
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Cook denies taking a paint sample, RC/1 at scene on 8th August 1985 (to COLP)

DI Cook (SOC) denies taking a paint sample, other than one he claims he took from the scene on 14th August 1985, marked, RWC/1. He tells a lie, and is responsible for falsifying this evidence because that was the sample (RWC/1) which was subsequently used to link the silencer to the scratch marks on the underside of the mantelpiece...

Cook has shot him self in the foot because I now know the big secret that he has tried to conceal for over 26 years...

I believe I know the identity of the gun which had what was believed to be paint on the end of its barrel?

I know the big secret....

I know the identity of the gun that was found "DOWNSTAIRS", downstairs at the scene, a gun that DS Davidson (SOC) told COLP, had taken a hard knock against something, but such a weapon has not been officially identified in the SC/786/85 file, but was obviously identified in the original file (SC/688/85)...
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I will reveal the identity of this gun, very soon after I have gathered together the supporting evidence that I will post on here for all to see. I know what the police  did and why they did what they did, and when they did it...

Mr Sutherests findings are correct, some marks were made later on the underside of the mantelpiece, and I now know why, and who by?
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It becomes clear at this stage, and by reference to the notes contained in this interview, that COLP were fully aware of a second silencer in this case, hence the way they were questioning DS Davidson - it all makes sense now...
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The only weapon which was damaged at the scene was the Bamber owned, Anshulz, .22 semi-automatic rifle, which had a reddish substance on the fore-site near the end of its barrel. Part of the wooden rifle stock was found in the kitchen on the floor, and somebody removed it from the floor whilst crime scene pictures were taken after the incident was stage managed and a false case was made out that Sheila had been shot twice in the bedroom.  The gun that received a hard knock and which was damaged, and which also had what was believed to be paint on the end of its barrel, was the Bamber rifle, and the police originally found it downstairs at the scene, not upstairs on top of Sheila's body...

I know what they did...

They sent the paint sample (RC/1) which was taken from the scene on 8th August 1985, by Ronald Cook, to the lab' along with the Bamber rifle on 20th September 1985, and that paint sample was used to see if the reddish substance on the end of the guns barrel was matching paint from the kitchen aga?
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The examination of the reddish substance on the end of the Bamber rifles barrel and details pertaining to it, were and have been suppressed and covered up, to facilitate the silencer evidence that was introduced after 1st October 1985...

This must be the case, because on 1st October 1985, DI Cook, and DS Davidson, were both present at the scene, when Cook got Mr Elliot to talk to cast of the marks found under the mantelpiece, and at that stage Cook told Elliot that he believed that those marks had been made when the barrel of the gun came into contact during a struggle between Ralph and Jeremy in the kitchen - by this stage, the silencer aspect must not have been introduced, hence Cooks reference to Elliot that the barrel of the gun (not the silencer) had made the marks...
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PC Bird (SOC) went and took pictures of marks on the underside of the mantelpiece, on (12th September 1985) the day after Ann Eaton handed in the silencer (11th September 1985). It is also now known that other pictures were taken, on other dates, and that if all of these were available to be examined, it might be possible to determine with a degree of accuracy exactly at which point the marks had been made, and who could have made them?

(1) - 7th August 1985?
(2) - 12th September 1985?
(3) - 1st October 1985?
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Bamber rifle found Downstairs not upstairs

If Bamber rifle was found downstairs by the police, then obviously the game is up for Essex police, since they would have to be responsible for stage managing Sheila's body in the bedroom trying to make it look like she had taken her own life by use of it there, when all along that gun which they photographed on top of her body with her right hand resting upon it and its barrel pointing in the general direction of the two wounds upon her neck and throat, must have been placed there, by the police...

DS Davidson was a scenes of crime officer who was responsible for exhibits found at the scene, and he told COLP in 1991, that a gun which had received a hard knock and which had paint on the end of its barrel was found downstairs, but there is no official confirmation of the identity of this gun, and the reason for this now seems clear since the only gun it could have been was the Bamber rifle - they moved it upstairs into the bedroom and placed it on Sheila's body...
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Only one Paint sample was taken according to DS Davidson (SOC) exhibits officer, page 56 of interview with COLP, 1991...

Only one paint sample taken from kitchen and that was on 8th August 1985 (RC/1) and RON Cook took it and handed it to Davidson at the scene that same date - but Cook denied doing this to COLP when he was interviewed, instead claiming that he took a paint sample from scene on 14th August 1985 - but he lied...
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Paint sample, RC/1 was used to examine the end of the Bamber rifles barrel to see if the reddish substance on its fore-site was paint from the aga, and Cook took a different paint sample (RWC/1) on some other occasion which was used to match the red paint that was ingrained into the silencers knurled end cap, after it was decided to introduce the silencer as being fitted to the gun at the time of the shootings...

Cook squeezed an entry into the notes of his pocketbook dated 14th August 1985 as part of the silencer conspiracy - which also included for the story that the relatives found a silencer one month sooner than they actually did, and that Peter Eaton supposedly handed this over to DS Jones on evening of 12th August 1985 - when he could not have done because relatives did not find silencer until a month later...
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By 1st October 1985, police believed guns barrel had made marks on underside of kitchen mantelpiece

And so says DS Neil Davidson, exhibits officer in the case - this is what he told COLP in his interview in 1991, as per pages, 60, 61, 62 and 63:-
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So, if by 1st October 1985, police were still working on the theory that the end of the guns barrel had made marks on the underside of the kitchen mantelpiece, what was it that made them change their minds and focus upon the silencer being fitted to the gun, and that it made the marks there, and that it must have been fitted to the end of the guns barrel at the time Sheila was shot and killed because how otherwise did her blood get into the silencer?


If police found Bamber rifle downstairs, did it have a silencer attached at that TIME?

If it didn't, then obviously silencer could not have been on gun at time Sheila was shot by the fatal bullet upstairs in the bedroom, because presumably Sheila was found downstairs in the kitchen presumed to be dead, having committed suicide, and she somehow ends upstairs in the bedroom shot by a bullet from the Bamber rifle - now at what stage was the silencer put onto, or taken off the gun, prior to PC Bird taking his pictures which show the gun on her body and the end of its barrel pointing in the general direction of the two wounds upon her throat?
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How does all this equate with the sighting of the rifle at the bedroom window by WPC Julia Jeapes, who saw the gun there at about 7:15am?

If the gun she saw there was the Bamber rifle, does this mean that somebody who was very much still alive inside the house, took possession of it and went downstairs carrying it, and was this the reason why DS Davidson told COLP that a gun that had received a hard knock was found downstairs which had what appeared to be paint on the end of its barrel?

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