Lest We Forget...................

[Caroline]

The thing to bear in mind here is that, irrespective of whether Jeremy is guilty, he was already involved in unrelated criminal activity.  This means he will have been coy with the police about his girlfriend, Julie, as some of what he was up to would have involved Julie or Julie would have known about it.  This is why I am inclined to take the view that Julie did volunteer the cheque offences to the police, but there is a caveat I must add.

It could well be (I rather suspect it is the case) that Julie's criminality was much more extensive than has been admitted and the only reason we know about the cheque offences is because she happened to mention it to Jeremy and, for this reason, realised that she had to confess it to the police.

She must have because they clearly knew about it when they interviewed Bamber, asking him about various items that she gave him from the proceeds.

[guest29835]

People doing two degrees have to spend time studying.

But look forward to you providing information on the other crimes you believe she did.

I'm glad you look forward to my posts, Adam.  Thanks.

She wasn't studying for two degrees at once, just one at a time, and she wasn't studying during the summer holidays.

[guest29835]

Julie told the police about the caravan break in, drug dealing & cheque book fraud.

The police would have advised her & Susan Battersby to approach the bank and pay the money back. Which they did do.

The bank decided not to prosecute.

All straight forward. As usual.

Thanks Adam.  Since it's all so straight-forward, I wonder why we have this discussion forum?  I suppose some people just want to make it all complicated, when we should listen to you instead.  Thanks.

[Adam]

Julie had already completed her WS by the time she mentioned the cheque book fraud.

So the police could not use this to pressurise her.

[guest29835]

Julie had already completed her WS when by the time she mentioned the cheque book fraud.

So the police could not use this to pressurise her.

Thanks Adam.  I wonder why she needed to spend so long at Essex Police HQ giving all those statements? 

[Adam]

Thanks Adam.  Since it's all so straight-forward, I wonder why we have this discussion forum?  I suppose some people just want to make it all complicated, when we should listen to you instead.  Thanks.

That would be a sensible approach.

Have you read any books on the case?

[Adam]

Thanks Adam.  I wonder why she needed to spend so long at Essex Police HQ giving all those statements?

Had to be correct. It was a big very serious case. It takes time.

[guest29835]

That would be a sensible approach.

Have you read any books on the case?

Never mind whether I have read any books on the case, YOU should write a book on it, Adam. 

You could call it: "Adam's Big Book Of 86 Reasons Jeremy Did It".

[Adam]

Never mind whether I have read any books on the case, YOU should write a book on it, Adam. 

You could call it: "Adam's Big Book Of 86 Reasons Jeremy Did It".

Most people have read at least one.

[guest29835]

Most people have read at least one.

How about: "Adam's Jumbo Book of 500 Pieces Of Evidence: Proof That Jeremy Is The Killer".

You'd make a fortune!

[Adam]

Julie approached the police, retracted her original WS & said she was aware of his plans.  She then brought up the caravan break in, her drug dealing & cheque book fraud (paying the money back).

The defence at trial said she did all this because she was (apparently) jilted.

[guest29835]

Julie approached the police, retracted her original WS & said she was aware of his plans.  She then brought up the caravan break in, her drug dealing & cheque book fraud (paying the money back).

The defence at trial said she did all this because she was (apparently) jilted.

She didn't. 

[Adam]

She didn't.

Liz Rimmington rang Stan Jones. Julie was with her ready to talk to the police after confiding to 5 people.


 

[Caroline]

Liz Rimmington rang Stan Jones. Julie was with her ready to talk to the police after confiding to 5 people.

Julie asked Liz to call on her behalf.

[Adam]

QC does confirm Bamber's guilt while trying to create his reasonable doubt. While simultaneously insulting other posters.

Coming up with new obstacles on my Bamber scemario, which were easily covered.

He then suggested Julie assisted Bamber more than she said she did & that Bamber was fit enough to jog to WHF & used the bike for scouting.

He's now accusing the bank manager of lying & that Julie committed more crimes than she mentioned. After she brought up her cheque book fraud and paid the money back.