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Offline David1819

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Re: Nevill's Voice, Jeremy's Voice
« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2020, 11:35:AM »
Why are you deliberately misrepresenting what is detailed from page 27 onward in the document I attached? You can clearly see where 'scene' is spelled incorrectly. Also where 'illness' has been added. Unless I'm mistaken the document states that 'despatched' has been spelled incorrectly in both documents.  And the same people who pointed out the diagram which shows the same blood group as PB/DB in the sound moderator. You are prepared to accept where it shows the same blood group as SC/RB, as per the Crown's case, but can't bring your self to give parity to the other blood grouping. I've never been a fan of the 6am 999 call.

I am not misrepresenting anything. Both documents clearly show 'scene' and 'despatched' are identical in both. The word Illness is not even in that same handwriting as the rest of what West has written. Its the same handwriting as the duty sergeant who updated that copy of the C1

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Re: Nevill's Voice, Jeremy's Voice
« Reply #46 on: July 16, 2020, 12:21:PM »
I am not misrepresenting anything. Both documents clearly show 'scene' and 'despatched' are identical in both. The word Illness is not even in that same handwriting as the rest of what West has written. Its the same handwriting as the duty sergeant who updated that copy of the C1

Logic dictates that all the amendments have been done by the guy who signed the copy (bottom right) with the information added.



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Re: Nevill's Voice, Jeremy's Voice
« Reply #47 on: July 17, 2020, 12:05:PM »
Logic dictates that all the amendments have been done by the guy who signed the copy (bottom right) with the information added.



For those who believe the red text added to the copy is a result of covering up a 999 call from Nevill. Would you care to explain how it does so?

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Re: Nevill's Voice, Jeremy's Voice
« Reply #48 on: July 18, 2020, 07:44:PM »
For those who believe the red text added to the copy is a result of covering up a 999 call from Nevill. Would you care to explain how it does so?

Are those who subscribe to the notion of Nevill calling 999 going to provide an explanation? Or am I just going to be left with the sound of crickets?

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Re: Nevill's Voice, Jeremy's Voice
« Reply #49 on: July 18, 2020, 09:07:PM »
Are those who subscribe to the notion of Nevill calling 999 going to provide an explanation? Or am I just going to be left with the sound of crickets?

That can't be addressed to me, as I have never fully espoused that Nevill made a 999 call. I havent had time to revisit the doc I uploaded. BTW 'scene and scence' are not the same spelling of 'scene'.
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Re: Nevill's Voice, Jeremy's Voice
« Reply #50 on: July 18, 2020, 09:33:PM »
If you doubt the 999 call Nevill is supposed to have made to Police why are you so sure about the call to Jeremy around the same time?

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« Reply #51 on: July 18, 2020, 10:30:PM »
Are those who subscribe to the notion of Nevill calling 999 going to provide an explanation? Or am I just going to be left with the sound of crickets?

I'm undecided on the point and would like to consider the evidence further and reflect. 

I also think that the discovery of a 999 call from Nevill would not necessarily assist the defence, in fact it could undermine them.  It very much would depend on the timing of the call.

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Re: Nevill's Voice, Jeremy's Voice
« Reply #52 on: July 18, 2020, 10:35:PM »
I'm undecided on the point and would like to consider the evidence further and reflect. 

I also think that the discovery of a 999 call from Nevill would not necessarily assist the defence, in fact it could undermine them.  It very much would depend on the timing of the call.
No it would cast serious doubt on Jeremy's culpability and he would have to be released.

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Re: Nevill's Voice, Jeremy's Voice
« Reply #53 on: July 19, 2020, 11:30:AM »
I'm undecided on the point and would like to consider the evidence further and reflect. 

I also think that the discovery of a 999 call from Nevill would not necessarily assist the defence, in fact it could undermine them.  It very much would depend on the timing of the call.

Discovery of a 999 call from Nevill.

What police clerk was on filing duty on the Bamber case in 1985?
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #54 on: July 19, 2020, 11:35:AM »
No it would cast serious doubt on Jeremy's culpability and he would have to be released.

Again, as usual, you don't pay attention to what I am saying and you quote selectively.

I stated that it would depend on the timing of the call.

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« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2020, 11:35:AM »
Discovery of a 999 call from Nevill.

What police clerk was on filing duty on the Bamber case in 1985?

I didn't say there was a 999 call from Nevill.

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Re: Nevill's Voice, Jeremy's Voice
« Reply #56 on: July 19, 2020, 03:26:PM »
I'm undecided on the point and would like to consider the evidence further and reflect. 

I also think that the discovery of a 999 call from Nevill would not necessarily assist the defence, in fact it could undermine them.  It very much would depend on the timing of the call.

Its been alleged that Wests call to Bonnet is actually Nevill calling them and implicating Sheila.

Obviously a call from Nevill implicating Sheila would demolish the whole case, however there was no such call. Its a result of sloppy research and zero critical thinking.

The whole thing does a great amount of harm to Jeremy's campaign. To reasonable supporters it makes the campaign team look incompetent and to those who believe Jeremy is guilty, it makes the campaign team look dishonest and deceitful.


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Re: Nevill's Voice, Jeremy's Voice
« Reply #57 on: July 19, 2020, 03:57:PM »
Its been alleged that Wests call to Bonnet is actually Nevill calling them and implicating Sheila.

Obviously a call from Nevill implicating Sheila would demolish the whole case, however there was no such call. Its a result of sloppy research and zero critical thinking.

The whole thing does a great amount of harm to Jeremy's campaign. To reasonable supporters it makes the campaign team look incompetent and to those who believe Jeremy is guilty, it makes the campaign team look dishonest and deceitful.
Hear hear..

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Re: Nevill's Voice, Jeremy's Voice
« Reply #58 on: July 19, 2020, 04:13:PM »
That can't be addressed to me, as I have never fully espoused that Nevill made a 999 call. I havent had time to revisit the doc I uploaded. BTW 'scene and scence' are not the same spelling of 'scene'.

They are identical on both copies. I have inverted the colours on one copy and overlapped them with a transparency filter.

They are IDENTICAL.

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Re: Nevill's Voice, Jeremy's Voice
« Reply #59 on: July 19, 2020, 04:39:PM »
Its been alleged that Wests call to Bonnet is actually Nevill calling them and implicating Sheila.

Obviously a call from Nevill implicating Sheila would demolish the whole case, however there was no such call. Its a result of sloppy research and zero critical thinking.

The whole thing does a great amount of harm to Jeremy's campaign. To reasonable supporters it makes the campaign team look incompetent and to those who believe Jeremy is guilty, it makes the campaign team look dishonest and deceitful.

I'm not necessarily only referring to a call from Nevill implicating Sheila.  Obviously THAT would demolish the whole case, but that's necessarily the only thing I'm referring to.  There are other permutations to it.

No offence, but like Steve, you've got the wrong end of the stick in terms of what I'm driving at.  In Steve's case, it's probably on purpose, to generate mischief.

I have no view about a 999 call one way or the other.  I'd like to reserve my position, please.  Is that OK with you and Steve, or do I need your written permission?

And with respect, I hold no brief for Jeremy or the authorities.  I'm neutral.  I'm not responsible for how the man's campaign looks or is perceived by the public.  How's that my responsibility?  I'm not even one of his supporters.

Internet forums can be useful, but sometimes it can get bloody annoying.  People 'accidentally on purpose' misunderstand and misconstrue what's being said.