The COVID-19 virus in the UK

[nugnug]

This was during the Asian 'flu pandemic, which no doubt similar copies of the vaccine may have been uses since in winter 'flu vaccine and also the present pandemic.

they wore masks during the spaninish flue pandemi and 100 millon people died anyway wich sort of proesthat maskssdont work.

[killingeve]

they wore masks during the spaninish flue pandemi and 100 millon people died anyway wich sort of proesthat maskssdont work.

I don't believe any scientist has ever said masks alone offer a high degree of protection?

What evidence exists that mask wearing in 1918 didn't reduce the number of fatalities or serious illness?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34016743/

[nugnug]

I don't believe any scientist has ever said masks alone offer a high degree of protection?

What evidence exists that mask wearing in 1918 didn't reduce the number of fatalities or serious illness?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34016743/

100 millon deaths say it.

[killingeve]

100 millon deaths say it.

As I said no scientist has ever said masks alone offer a high degree of protection.

What evidence exists that if masks hadn't been worn during the Spanish flu pandemic the fatalities might have been say 150 million or 200 million? 

I've not stopped wearing masks in some settings eg retail not because I'm a scary cat but I just don't like idea of soaking in debris from others!  Plus I can talk to myself behind my mask 

[Jane]

100 millon deaths say it.

How do we know that without masks, there may have been several million more deaths. Masks have a two-fold positive. They protect us from germs other's may may pass on to us, as well as protecting others from any we might have.

[nugnug]

How do we know that without masks, there may have been several million more deaths. Masks have a two-fold positive. They protect us from germs other's may may pass on to us, as well as protecting others from any we might have.

well any public health mesure that cant prevent 100 millon deaths can not really be called efective.

[killingeve]

well any public health mesure that cant prevent 100 millon deaths can not really be called efective.

We're talking over a century ago!  100 million deaths worldwide.  What sort of public health measures existed in advanced economies in 1918 let alone under developed ones!  Do you think they had the means of assessing the co-morbid?

The average life expectancy in 1918 UK was 48.49 as opposed to 81.15 in 2020. 

[nugnug]

We're talking over a century ago!  100 million deaths worldwide.  What sort of public health measures existed in advanced economies in 1918 let alone under developed ones!  Do you think they had the means of assessing the co-morbid?

The average life expectancy in 1918 UK was 48.49 as opposed to 81.15 in 2020.

no they had masks that dident work.

[Jane]

no they had masks that dident work.

One wouldn't imagine, that 100yrs ago, they'd had access to the sort of materials we use now. However, leather would have done as good a job -in fact, better- as some of today's masks which are just several layers of cotton. Still, anything is better than nothing.

[nugnug]

One wouldn't imagine, that 100yrs ago, they'd had access to the sort of materials we use now. However, leather would have done as good a job -in fact, better- as some of today's masks which are just several layers of cotton. Still, anything is better than nothing.

if you looks at pics of them they are almost exactly the same.

[Jane]

if you looks at pics of them they are almost exactly the same.

They probably WERE 'almost exactly the same'. They'd have given as good protection as was possible in 1918. Undoubtedly, there'd have been some who chose, on occasions, as do I, to adorn the standard issue masks, but they probably didn't have the selection that we have, today.

[nugnug]

They probably WERE 'almost exactly the same'. They'd have given as good protection as was possible in 1918. Undoubtedly, there'd have been some who chose, on occasions, as do I, to adorn the standard issue masks, but they probably didn't have the selection that we have, today.

if there the same how an they protect now than they did then wich is not at all.

[Jane]

if there the same how an they protect now than they did then wich is not at all.

I meant that whilst in 1918, they were made of the same natural materials and afforded the most adequate protection available. Today, masks are made of different materials designed to keep infections out, thus affording protection to us and others. I have no idea why you should make sweeping statements suggesting they afforded NO protection. Are you medically trained? Do you have a degree in any of the sciences? Can you offer evidence that masks afford no protection.

[nugnug]

heres the real reason people are dying. https://t.co/8wT6j2hcEi?amp=1

[nugnug]

https://youtu.be/NPgRqM3Yvkw

there dropping like flys.