Did JM ever really love Jeremy Bamber?

[Jerry]

Jerry, you're not going to like my video. 

But the case is vast enough and has so many strands and aspects, that there is room for all of us to portray our stance.

As long as it is based on fact and not fiction I will like it.

[Jerry]

It is extremely interesting that when Jeremy was challenged and outsmarted about the order in which he made the consecutive telephone calls to Julie Mugford and the police, his reaction was to immediately say that he could not remember.

Classic signs of a liar.

[Jackiepreece]

Jerry the caravan robbery  is no indication that someone would go on to murder 5 people


Try to get things into perspective Jerry  there is NO evidence to prove Jeremy is guilty of the murders the prosecution could not even show how JB   "got away from the scene" dispite R Boutflour scouring for tyre tracks

By the way Jerry if you have the documents to hand have you got the dates and times Robert Boutflour was trying to find out what would happen to the Bamber inheritance if JB was convicted

[hartley]

I do.

[Jerry]

Curiousessex we can go round and round in circles about the phone calls but JB was a naive boy of 24 who didnt even request a solicitor for three days because he probably thought the whole thing was ridiculous if he was innocent. I DONT THINK I COULD PUT THIS ANY CLEARER but for this mass murder that JB had alledgedly been planning for months he didnt even have a story or exact times worked out.
Then added to Mugfords initial statement about times and then subsequent statements about changed times and I think one of those was backed up by her partner in crime (from the fraud) nothing on that subject is straightforward.  If JM was telling the truth about knowing when the murders happened (and there is not one shred of evidence to say she was) maybe we would have an answer to everything.  Robert Boutflour was like a vulcher straight in finding out who would get the money.

You questioned Ngb earlier about if he was helping JB now its my turn are you one of the polieman involved in the case because I know from another policeman that a number of police involved in the case still live in Essex.  Its just you seem obsessed with these timings as if you know the silencer is going to be discredited so you are looking for something else to look like JB is guilty


I would like to add that JB has got the very best people working on this case and mostly working for nothing because they believe this is a miscarriage of justice and  this includes some of the  best forensic scientists in England.  A lot of students are working day and night on a number of other issues and in the end we will get as near to the truth as is physically possible

Such a pity they are going to be disappointed then isn't it?

[Jerry]

Jerry the caravan robbery  is no indication that someone would go on to murder 5 people


Try to get things into perspective Jerry  there is NO evidence to prove Jeremy is guilty of the murders the prosecution could not even show how JB   "got away from the scene" dispite R Boutflour scouring for tyre tracks

By the way Jerry if you have the documents to hand have you got the dates and times Robert Boutflour was trying to find out what would happen to the Bamber inheritance if JB was convicted

No it doesn't but it does expose a character who was quite able and more than willing to bring distress upon his family in order to make financial gains and mores to the point, lie through his teeth about it afterwards.

The evidence of his guilt was there for all to see and the jury concurred with that.

[Jackiepreece]

Come on post details of Robert Boutflour checking how soon he could get his hands on the Bamber family fortunes.  Couldn't do the decent manly thing and identify the bodies more interested in getting his hands on the money

What a very jealous unpleasant man

[hartley]

Come on post details of Robert Boutflour checking how soon he could get his hands on the Bamber family fortunes.  Couldn't do the decent manly thing and identify the bodies more interested in getting his hands on the money

What a very jealous unpleasant man

You clearly have not the slightest idea of the events surrounding the identifying of bodies.

[Jerry]

Come on post details of Robert Boutflour checking how soon he could get his hands on the Bamber family fortunes.  Couldn't do the decent manly thing and identify the bodies more interested in getting his hands on the money

What a very jealous unpleasant man

You clearly have not the slightest idea of the events surrounding the identifying of bodies.

Cloud-cuckoo-land would be closer to the point.

[Jackiepreece]

Come on fill me in I have read the fairy tales of Ann Eatons trip to the mortuary

[hartley]

Come on fill me in I have read the fairy tales of Ann Eatons trip to the mortuary

Jac I've got no intention of doing your research for you, I've pointed you in different directions enough already. The information is around in the public domain.

[Jackiepreece]

There is nothing is there Hartley it was all about the money

That's what this case has always been about extreme jealousy and money and greed I just pray for a retrial an appeal would be a let off  for those relatives

[hartley]

There is nothing is there Hartley it was all about the money

That's what this case has always been about extreme jealousy and money and greed I just pray for a retrial an appeal would be a let off  for those relatives

You've gone a bit odd again, we were talking about body identification. Keep up.

[Jerry]

Jackie, is it true that Jeremy is godfather to your children?

[hartley]

That's a joke right?