Did JM ever really love Jeremy Bamber?

[shonapugs]

Jack, if he gets out, direct him towards Max Clifford.

[chochokeira]

Choch, JM was surely deeply dodgy, but found herself out of her depth. I don't think that she lied, once she was under oath.

She claimed that Jeremy became increasingly bitter towards his family in late 1984. Yet, aside form the extended family who seem intent on portraying him as evil, other witnesses said the opposite was true, that he was settling down as he matured and that the relationships wer improving.

The man in charge of the WHF part of the Smith charity, I forget his name, said that he felt Jeremy was making a good farmer and that he was happy for him to take over the farm when the time came.

In late 1984, JM said Jeremy often talked of killing his family. I've read that when she was asked what her response to that, JM said:

"I just regarded it as idle chit chat."

Killing 5 people, idle chit chat...?

[shonapugs]

I know, I know, she lets herself down so many times. But she never wavered in court.

[Jackiepreece]

Hi Chocho
You always come up with bits I haven't read before what a waste if JB is innocent

[chochokeira]

Choch, JM was surely deeply dodgy, but found herself out of her depth. I don't think that she lied, once she was under oath.

She claimed that Jeremy became increasingly bitter towards his family in late 1984. Yet, aside form the extended family who seem intent on portraying him as evil, other witnesses said the opposite was true, that he was settling down as he matured and that the relationships wer improving.

The man in charge of the WHF part of the Smith charity, I forget his name, said that he felt Jeremy was making a good farmer and that he was happy for him to take over the farm when the time came.

In late 1984, JM said Jeremy often talked of killing his family. I've read that when she was asked what her response to that, JM said:

"I just regarded it as idle chit chat."

Killing 5 people, idle chit chat...?

I read too that JM claimed Jeremy's plan number 1 was to drug the family and to burn the house down. She claimed, according to this account, that he did a test run using some sleeping pills she'd brought with her. Was JB supposed to have asked JM to get these pills?

Still JM said she beleived this was idle chit chat and joke.

If JM's account is true, she had 5 lives in her hands, yet she failed to warn them or to do anything to prevent  these murders.

[shonapugs]

I read that JB considered burning the house down - making it look like Ralph had been drinking gin and dropped his fag, but JM said that the house was "too beautiful to burn". We're getting into the twilight zone again.

[chochokeira]

Choch, JM was surely deeply dodgy, but found herself out of her depth. I don't think that she lied, once she was under oath.

She claimed that Jeremy became increasingly bitter towards his family in late 1984. Yet, aside form the extended family who seem intent on portraying him as evil, other witnesses said the opposite was true, that he was settling down as he matured and that the relationships wer improving.

The man in charge of the WHF part of the Smith charity, I forget his name, said that he felt Jeremy was making a good farmer and that he was happy for him to take over the farm when the time came.

In late 1984, JM said Jeremy often talked of killing his family. I've read that when she was asked what her response to that, JM said:

"I just regarded it as idle chit chat."

Killing 5 people, idle chit chat...?

I read too that JM claimed Jeremy's plan number 1 was to drug the family and to burn the house down. She claimed, according to this account, that he did a test run using some sleeping pills she'd brought with her. Was JB supposed to have asked JM to get these pills?

Still JM said she beleived this was idle chit chat and joke.

If JM's account is true, she had 5 lives in her hands, yet she failed to warn them or to do anything to prevent  these murders.

I can't believe JM could possibly said of plan number 1 what I read in one account: that it was too beautiful to burn and would be too difficult to torch because it was so big,

[chochokeira]

Snap, shona!

[chochokeira]

Then she claims there was plan number 2: shoot them all.

Could JM possibly have said when asked for her response to this, what one account claims: "I got really upset and said I'd rather he didn't mention it"?

[shonapugs]

Choch, she was young, she was dodgy, she was frightened and backed into a corner. It was time to stop lying and covering for JB.

[chochokeira]

The threats became more frequent, JM is alleged to have claimed.

"They worried me a little."

Yet even if stirred to worry a little, JM told no one.

[chochokeira]

Jeremy's threats to murder his entire immediate family were supposed to have been formulated for around a year, from Summer '84 to Summer '85. All the while, JM was going out with Jeremy, stopping and sleeping with him and meeting these people he kept chit chatting about killing.

[smiffy]

The threats became more frequent, JM is alleged to have claimed.

"They worried me a little."

Yet even if stirred to worry a little, JM told no one.

she couldnt tell anyone prior to the killings as there was nothing to tell as its all been fabricated after the murder...simple ...

Come on...if anyone really was talking like JM claimed...then you would steer well clear of them in fear for your own life.

[vidvic]

Vidvic
So now Ngb has explained things do you accept Sheila could be responsible

I think certain members here who shall be nameless have already accepted that, Jackie. That's why the wagons are circling around you so closely. Keep them guessing, you are so good at that! Good to see ngb riding shotgun

What a strange post Keira. I simply don't understand what you mean?

[chochokeira]

JM claimed, according to one account, that Jeremy told her that he planned to use his mother's bike and cycle undetected along the sea wall path to travel between WHF and Goldhanger.

In July 1985, JM's holiday from college began and she chose to stay with Jeremy.

Does this sound like a woman who is afraid of her murderous boyfriend?

On JM's arrival at Head Street she noticed June's bicycle outside.

JM said she still thought it was all still just one of Jeremy's fantasies.

She still told not a soul.