Did JM ever really love Jeremy Bamber?

[Jerry]

There is lots of proof in the various corroborations we have in several statements.  After all, it was lovely Julie who spilled the beans on the whole Osea Caravan Park fiasco otherwise we would never have known about it.

Do they not have phone signals in Southwold?

[Jackiepreece]

Jerry I am seriously getting worried about your state of mind lately whether she was telling the truth or telling lies I find it difficult to imagine anyone describing Julie Mugford as lovely.
Still at least everyone on the forum can judge you on the sort of person you describe as lovely

Unbelievable

Yes they have phone signals in Southwold but there are more than enough people fighting JB s corner for me not to be around for a few days.  But incase you dont know everything is going brilliantly with JB
so many high profile supporting him at the moment.  Its just brilliant

[paulg]

Jerry I am seriously getting worried about your state of mind lately whether she was telling the truth or telling lies I find it difficult to imagine anyone describing Julie Mugford as lovely.
Still at least everyone on the forum can judge you on the sort of person you describe as lovely

Unbelievable

Yes they have phone signals in Southwold but there are more than enough people fighting JB s corner for me not to be around for a few days.  But incase you dont know everything is going brilliantly with JB
so many high profile supporting him at the moment.  Its just brilliant

Hi ya Jackie, i love Southwold, used to stay in my motorhome there all the time. They've put bloody yellow lines everywhere now.

I knew you'd love my earlier comment, was just for you.

And i didn't receive your holiday request form... 

[chochokeira]

Jerry I am seriously getting worried about your state of mind lately whether she was telling the truth or telling lies I find it difficult to imagine anyone describing Julie Mugford as lovely.
Still at least everyone on the forum can judge you on the sort of person you describe as lovely

Unbelievable

Yes they have phone signals in Southwold but there are more than enough people fighting JB s corner for me not to be around for a few days.  But incase you dont know everything is going brilliantly with JB
so many high profile supporting him at the moment.  Its just brilliant

Hi Jackie. Good to see you back! Hope you had a great time in Southwold - what a beautiful place.

[paulg]

Only me and you online tonight Keira, what shall we argue about. 

Was down at Goldhanger  sea wall again on Sunday...

Bloody Oysters everywhere, was tempted to take a few home to try...never eaten one before.

[chochokeira]

Surely, JM & JB Both robbed the caravan Park, both slept around,
both led the high life after the murders.
How can you judge one to be more trustworthy than the other?

"In another development, Bamber's cousin, David Boutflour, who found the silencer at the farm days after the killings, has admitted – for the first time – that he inherited a significant sum following the murders. "I have inherited quite a large amount of money as a result of Jeremy. And most of it I've wasted, I've spent," he said."

Looks like these two weren't the only ones who lived the high life after the murders then?

[chochokeira]

Only me and you online tonight Keira, what shall we argue about. 

Was down at Goldhanger  sea wall again on Sunday...

Bloody Oysters everywhere, was tempted to take a few home to try...never eaten one before.

Never had an oyster? They're lovely. The ones in the Colchester district are said to be among the best in the world, I believe.

[vidvic]

"I think most people on the forum agree there is no proof JM was telling the truth"


There is absolutely no proof she was lying either! The Jury believed her and thought JB was lying......

JM's story hasn't changed one bit over the years....Jeremy's has. Just on the phone call alone he changed his mind before the trial and has changed it since.

[chochokeira]

"I think most people on the forum agree there is no proof JM was telling the truth"


There is absolutely no proof she was lying either! The Jury believed her and thought JB was lying......

JM's story hasn't changed one bit over the years....Jeremy's has. Just on the phone call alone he changed his mind before the trial and has changed it since.

That isn't true though, is it, Vic? JM used 3 totally contradictory stories:

1. JB was innocent

2. JB hired a hitman

5. JB was the murderer

Don't accept what you're told so uncritically.

[Jackiepreece]

Chocho  and Paul + 1 each Paul what is my punishment? X

[chochokeira]

Chocho  and Paul + 1 each Paul what is my punishment? X

Thanks, Jackie. What do you mean by, "what's my punishment?"

[vidvic]

Hi Keira,

JM never said JB was innocent.

JM said that JB told her he'd used a hitman. Why would she make that up? If she wanted to frame JB she surely would have just said that he did it?

Why would JB call JM at 3am after a long day working on the farm? Nobody disputes this call happened, only the timing. There are 3 witnesses that say it was at 3am, BEFORE nevill supposedly called JB.

The defence have always tried to claim this call was about 3.30 to make JB's story fit, but the jury didn't believe that either.

Now, there is a theory that Nevill called the police, only yet again, this would place JB's call to JM BEFORE he rang the Police, making him seem a little, er, uncaring.

[Jackiepreece]

Hi Chocho I think Southwold is like stepping back in time it's really special shall we go there one day together for a weekend x

Chocho I didn't fill in my holiday form !!!

[Jackiepreece]

Vidvic jeremy had never been in trouble for stealing before being involved with Mugford. I think she probably  instigated the caravan theft. Mugford was an experienced theif and fraudster.  Vidvic look up the word fraud or fraudster and let me know what it means

[chochokeira]

Hi Keira,

JM never said JB was innocent.

Oh, yes she did. During one long year in which she claimed Jeremy repeatedly threatened to slaughter his entire immediate family and made a number of detailed plans for the murders, JM's whole demeanour said he was innocent.

When JM did nothing to warn the family that they were about to be brutally slaughtered, despite her later claims that Jeremy told her he was intent on murdering them all, JM's underlying story was that he was innocent.

When she continued her relationship with Jeremy after the murders, when she went out drinking with him and on holiday with him, when she went to the funerals and to see Colin Caffell, JM was silently telling the story that Jeremy Bamber is innocent.