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Offline Kaldin

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« Reply #60 on: February 04, 2020, 06:58:PM »
Drops on the stairs means nothing.  Espescially two drops.

Nevill had an easy exit from his side of the bed & out of the bedroom door.

With Sheila shooting 9 times from June's side of the bed, and Nevill already awake & moving only recieveing 4 shots (2 torso) there was no time for Nevill to bleed onto the bedroom carpet.

It was a rifle for shooting rabbits. Not a shot gun.

There may well have been blood from Nevill in the bedroom but not all the blood was tested. I would expect some more drops of blood on the stairs though.

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« Reply #61 on: February 04, 2020, 07:01:PM »
This is how I think the four shell cases got into that location/s



That is very possible. Nevill was shot on the outside of his left arm/shoulder though, so that's a mystery. I suppose that could have happened as he turned to go back down the stairs.

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« Reply #62 on: February 04, 2020, 07:03:PM »
doesnt look as the shots would be described as close range ,the animation shows her outside so about 6 or 7 feet away

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« Reply #63 on: February 04, 2020, 07:06:PM »
There may well have been blood from Nevill in the bedroom but not all the blood was tested. I would expect some more drops of blood on the stairs though.

Even David will agree that Nevill's 2 torso shots would not go through his pyjamas & onto the floor. Within seconds.

He is relying on Nevill's two face shots instantly shooting a river of blood from his face travelling down onto the carpet. Within the few seconds prior to him exiting the bedroom.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2020, 07:10:PM by Adam »
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Re: What was Nevill doing during Sheila's first rifle load? Poll.
« Reply #64 on: February 04, 2020, 07:14:PM »
Supporters have a possible scenario -

The house was sleeping. Except Sheila.

Sheila saw and then got the rifle ready.

Sheila fired 9 shots from June's side of the bed.

Nevill simultaneously got up & went downstairs.

Bamber was telephoned.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2020, 07:16:PM by Adam »
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« Reply #65 on: February 04, 2020, 08:44:PM »
That is very possible. Nevill was shot on the outside of his left arm/shoulder though, so that's a mystery. I suppose that could have happened as he turned to go back down the stairs.

Exactly.  :)

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Re: What was Nevill doing during Sheila's first rifle load? Poll.
« Reply #66 on: February 07, 2020, 06:54:PM »
Supporters have a possible scenario -

The house was sleeping. Except Sheila.

Sheila saw and then got the rifle ready.

Sheila fired 9 shots from June's side of the bed.

Nevill simultaneously got up & went downstairs.

Bamber was telephoned.

This scenario suggests he has managed to get passed Sheila, but elected to descend the stairs rapidly rather than overpower her. Whilst doing this, he has managed to make a phone call, wait for it to be answered and then spoken to JB before she caught up with him...

Unlikely

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« Reply #67 on: February 07, 2020, 07:34:PM »
This scenario suggests he has managed to get passed Sheila, but elected to descend the stairs rapidly rather than overpower her. Whilst doing this, he has managed to make a phone call, wait for it to be answered and then spoken to JB before she caught up with him...

Unlikely

No. The scenario suggests that Nevill went upstairs AFTER making the call. Got shot four times on the landing and retreated back downstairs to where his body was found.

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« Reply #68 on: February 07, 2020, 07:40:PM »
No. The scenario suggests that Nevill went upstairs AFTER making the call. Got shot four times on the landing and retreated back downstairs to where his body was found.

He said all were sleeping, bar Sheila, Nevill got up and went downstairs,  ergo he started off upstairs, hence my response.

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« Reply #69 on: February 07, 2020, 07:48:PM »
He said all were sleeping, bar Sheila, Nevill got up and went downstairs,  ergo he started off upstairs, hence my response.

Who said "all were sleeping , bar Sheila"?  ???

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Re: What was Nevill doing during Sheila's first rifle load? Poll.
« Reply #70 on: February 07, 2020, 07:58:PM »
Supporters have a possible scenario -

The house was sleeping. Except Sheila.

Sheila saw and then got the rifle ready.

Sheila fired 9 shots from June's side of the bed.

Nevill simultaneously got up & went downstairs.

Bamber was telephoned.



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Re: What was Nevill doing during Sheila's first rifle load? Poll.
« Reply #71 on: February 07, 2020, 08:03:PM »
This scenario suggests he has managed to get passed Sheila, but elected to descend the stairs rapidly rather than overpower her. Whilst doing this, he has managed to make a phone call, wait for it to be answered and then spoken to JB before she caught up with him...

Unlikely

I know it would never happen. 

But have you seen some of the other scenarios?
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Re: What was Nevill doing during Sheila's first rifle load? Poll.
« Reply #72 on: February 07, 2020, 08:05:PM »
This scenario suggests he has managed to get passed Sheila, but elected to descend the stairs rapidly rather than overpower her. Whilst doing this, he has managed to make a phone call, wait for it to be answered and then spoken to JB before she caught up with him...

Unlikely

What do you believe Nevill was doing when Sheila got the rifle ready?
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« Reply #73 on: February 07, 2020, 08:08:PM »
He was probably sleeping. If Jeremy is telling the truth, this all happened at about 3 in the morning. Nevill wouldn't be up at that hour. However, being asleep doesn't mean that one couldn't wake up and go downstairs.

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« Reply #74 on: February 07, 2020, 08:11:PM »
He was probably sleeping. If Jeremy is telling the truth, this all happened at about 3 in the morning. Nevill wouldn't be up at that hour. However, being asleep doesn't mean that one couldn't wake up and go downstairs.

So he went downstairs. Sheila was holding the fully loaded rifle and was 'going crazy'.

How could Nevill ring Jeremy?
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