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Offline Adam

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Re: Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?
« Reply #360 on: February 08, 2020, 09:13:PM »
I don't agree with that at all.  ???

It is all fact.
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Re: Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?
« Reply #361 on: February 08, 2020, 09:25:PM »
It is all fact.

Nevill only had the use of one arm, and he'd been shot in the face. The shooter only needed to whack him with the gun, they didn't even need to get very close to him. The table was in the middle of the kitchen and had been displaced, so it was perhaps used as a buffer.

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Re: Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?
« Reply #362 on: February 08, 2020, 09:26:PM »
Obviously in a fight, the person with an 8 stone and 9 inch advantage would use it.

Either to brush Sheila aside when fully fit. Or partially fit. Or if too badly injured, he would just fall on Sheila.

The evidence shows there was a huge kitchen fight where Nevill wrestled for the rifle. There is no possibility Sheila would have won the kitchen fight.

None of the above applies to Bamber. Nevill also never had the opportunity to tackle him when fully fit.

Nevill had a massive height & weight advantage - Fact.

Nevill had the option of using these advantages. Whether fully or partially fit - Fact.

The rifle was wrestled for in a huge kitchen fight - Fact.

There is no possibility Sheila would have won a kitchen fight against a fully fit Nevill - Fact. 

An injured Nevill had the option of falling on Sheila - Fact.

None of the above applies to Bamber. Except the rifle was wrestled for - Fact.

Nevill did not have had the option of tackling Bamber when fully fit - Fact.
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Offline TheBrilliantMistake

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Re: Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?
« Reply #363 on: February 08, 2020, 09:37:PM »
Nevill had a massive height & weight advantage - Fact.

Nevill had the option of using these advantages. Whether fully or partially fit - Fact.

The rifle was wrestled for in a huge kitchen fight - Fact.

There is no possibility Sheila would have won a kitchen fight against a fully fit Nevill - Fact. 

An injured Nevill had the option of falling on Sheila - Fact.

None of the above applies to Bamber. Except the rifle was wrestled for - Fact.

Nevill did not have had the option of tackling Bamber when fully fit - Fact.

Adam,
I could overpower most females - fact
Would I overpower one with a gun? I have no idea. I might turn and run.

You are presenting a series of factual statements, but these do not lead to a factual conclusion. You are claiming to know what WOULD have happened, and none of us know that.

All we do know is that there was struggle. And it would appear Nevill was both shot and hit with the butt on the rifle. Who would have won a fight in a different set of circumstances is a pointless argument.

I believe he fought with Jeremy (he may not have known it was Jeremy). Others believe he fought with Sheila. Regardless, we know he sustained injuries, AND the assailant had the rifle. 6'4 or not, any advantage he did have was lost.