Det. Supt. 'Mick' Ainsley - oversight of corrupt practices

[Roch]

The questions I would ask for the defence are:

1. Are the original crime scene photographs available for inspection?  Preferably this should be reproduction from the negatives.

2. Is an alternative expert forensic interpretation of these originals possible?  For instance, is there a pathological expert who can offer an opinion on whether the photographs show unrecorded wounds?

David and RJ are not up to speed I'm afraid. Both are heavily dependent upon trial evidence (and their own guesswork as to how that played out). The negatives in question were only released to the defence via the CCRC, after a protracted battle between EP; CCRC and the Defence approx 2011. Law students actually protested outside of the CCRC regarding release of the negatives. It is these negatives that were sent for lab prints. It is study of those prints that has revealed the true extent of wounds on Sheila, June and Nevill. Even that claim may be going too far, as there are some negatives that were cut from strips, so we may never know the real extent.

[guest7363]

David and RJ are not up to speed I'm afraid. Both are heavily dependent upon trial evidence (and their own guesswork as to how that played out). The negatives in question were only released to the defence via the CCRC, after a protracted battle between EP; CCRC and the Defence approx 2011. Law students actually protested outside of the CCRC regarding release of the negatives. It is these negatives that were sent for lab prints. It is study of those prints that has revealed the true extent of wounds on Sheila, June and Nevill. Even that claim may be going too far, as there are some negatives that were cut from strips, so we may never know the real extent.

I’ve constantly said, the photos I’ve seen on here do not show any scratches or abrasions, now if you have proof of any other I will hold my hands up and agree, I’ve asked you yourself numerous times, have you seen such negatives and you have avoided this question, so I can only assume your basing your evidence on the photos on here.

[guest7363]

David and RJ are not up to speed I'm afraid. Both are heavily dependent upon trial evidence (and their own guesswork as to how that played out). The negatives in question were only released to the defence via the CCRC, after a protracted battle between EP; CCRC and the Defence approx 2011. Law students actually protested outside of the CCRC regarding release of the negatives. It is these negatives that were sent for lab prints. It is study of those prints that has revealed the true extent of wounds on Sheila, June and Nevill. Even that claim may be going too far, as there are some negatives that were cut from strips, so we may never know the real extent.

They are that good they don’t seem to be included in the next submission or one of the points for submission.

[JackieD]

The judge gives a thorough examination of the Autopsy photos and they were given to the Jury.

Funny how you quote the jury when it suits. Shame the relatives misled the jury about inheritance money

Shame the jury didn’t know about Mugford and the NOTW deal

If the jury had been given these FACTS there would have been a not guilty verdict and you know it

[Roch]

I’ve constantly said, the photos I’ve seen on here do not show any scratches or abrasions, now if you have proof of any other I will hold my hands up and agree, I’ve asked you yourself numerous times, have you seen such negatives and you have avoided this question, so I can only assume your basing your evidence on the photos on here.

It would make no difference if I said I had. Again you are spouting shite. I gave the location of the low def image of SC's hand earlier today. You didn't respond to my post. That's the best you're going to get. You were privileged to have a higher def image on here of same image, previously. I can't be bothered with your nonsense.

[guest7363]

Funny how you quote the jury when it suits. Shame the relatives misled the jury about inheritance money

Shame the jury didn’t know about Mugford and the NOTW deal

If the jury had been given these FACTS there would have been a not guilty verdict and you know it

And again it’s not even got a mention in the latest submission, maybe he will use this in 2030

[guest7363]

It would make no difference if I said I had. Again you are spouting shite. I gave the location of the low def image of SC's hand earlier today. You didn't respond to my post. That's the best you're going to get. You were privileged to have a higher def image on here of same image, previously. I can't be bothered with your nonsense.

My shite and your lies makes a good combination, the trouble is, I’ve shite on your lies.

[David1819]

And again it’s not even got a mention in the latest submission, maybe he will use this in 2030

Either someone in the CT is leading Bill on about these "28 wounds" being "verified by experts" or Bill has lost the plot. One way or the other.

[Roch]

My shite and your lies makes a good combination, the trouble is, I’ve shite on your lies.

What lies?

[Roch]

Either someone in the CT is leading Bill on about these "28 wounds" being "verified by experts" or Bill has lost the plot. One way or the other.

There is another option. You and justice are making fools of yourselves.

[David1819]

There is another option. You and justice are making fools of yourselves.

I have already asked Bill to obtain these alleged reports and pass them onto NGB to establish that. 

[guest7363]

I have already asked Bill to obtain these alleged reports and pass them onto NGB to establish that. 

They'll be out at Christmas put money on it 👍

[David1819]

They'll be out at Christmas put money on it 👍

 

[Roch]

I have already asked Bill to obtain these alleged reports and pass them onto NGB to establish that. 

I suspect ngb is open to the likelihood that the three adult victims had fight and defence wounds. 

[JackieD]

My shite and your lies makes a good combination, the trouble is, I’ve shite on your lies.

Keep spouting your venom but one thing is a fact if this conviction is overturned Osea Caravan Park will be in serious trouble. Any hint of relatives misleading the jury or tampering with evidence will have huge ramifications.

The press, writers and filmmakers will be fighting to tell the truth about who was responsible for putting an innocent person in prison for over 30 years

Jeremy would have more than enough money to fight any legal battles he needs to fight

The people who have lied will find there lives will never be the same