PC Bird - description of gun cupboard

[lookout]

Looked, not searched the silencer was hid at the back of the cupboard.

It could have been AP's as he was there at WHF a week before the murders.

[David1819]

   I would be fairly confident that the reason the missing negatives are missing is because they  show the inside of the gun cupboard and those pictures are inconsistent with the claims of the relatives. Just my hunch

Same.

[guest7363]

No. The silencer was found in one of the two boxes along with the scope and ammo where it should be. Nobody had "hidden" it. 

Make of it what you want,

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=347.0;attach=839;image

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=347.0;attach=840;image

But

[Kaldin]

If the silencer was usually placed in a box to the far right hand side of the cupboard, it probably wasn't used very often. Things which are often used are generally kept in a more convenient place.

[guest7363]

If the silencer was usually placed in a box to the far right hand side of the cupboard, it probably wasn't used very often. Things which are often used are generally kept in a more convenient place.

He had said in his statement for the hundred time, he’d unscrewed the silencer two to three times that week from off the rifle, how is that not used often?  Give me a hammer someone pleeeease

[David1819]

Make of it what you want,

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=347.0;attach=839;image

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=347.0;attach=840;image

But

In these statements he is saying he noticed the blood and paint on the silencer at WHF. At trial he said he looked but did not notice any blood or paint at WHF. It was only later that evening at Anns house did he notice the blood and paint. Hows that for a conflicting statement? 

[lookout]

And if there had been blood----a dry flake of it, it could have come from a rabbit.

[guest7363]

If the silencer was usually placed in a box to the far right hand side of the cupboard, it probably wasn't used very often. Things which are often used are generally kept in a more convenient place.

Take five minutes out and read Birds COLP interview about the photos and the state of the cupboard and the photos they are looking at!

[Kaldin]

He had said in his statement for the hundred time, he’d unscrewed the silencer two to three times that week from off the rifle, how is that not used often?  Give me a hammer someone pleeeease

I'm just saying that David Boutflour said he found the silencer in a box on the far right hand side of the cupboard - a place which would inconvenient if it was always kept there.

[Kaldin]

This photo is mentioned in the trial transcripts as being taken on the 7th of August. Its not a question of I think. I know.

OK. I have found a statement from Ann which describes the den as it was in that photo. She said the police told her the gun leaning against the wall was there when they first looked. That statement was on Friday 9th August.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1923.0;attach=24617;image

[guest7363]

I'm just saying that David Boutflour said he found the silencer in a box on the far right hand side of the cupboard - a place which would inconvenient if it was always kept there.

Your saying it probably wasn’t used often or did you mean something else?  Bamber says it was because he makes reference to this fact in his statement.   

[Kaldin]

Take five minutes out and read Birds COLP interview about the photos and the state of the cupboard and the photos they are looking at!

I already did that - that's where I found his statement about stuff being in front of the gun cupboard.

[Caroline]

He had said in his statement for the hundred time, he’d unscrewed the silencer two to three times that week from off the rifle, how is that not used often?  Give me a hammer someone pleeeease

I get exactly what you are saying RJ.

[Kaldin]

Your saying it probably wasn’t used often or did you mean something else?  Bamber says it was because he makes reference to this fact in his statement.

In that case, it sounds as if someone went to the trouble of putting it in a box in the most inaccessible part of the cupboard at some point.

[Kaldin]

I get exactly what you are saying RJ.

I get what he's saying too, so don't bother to stir things up. i