Sheila being knocked out after the first shot.

[Jane]

No----it wasn't one of Mikes.

I can't for the life of me, think who else might have put forward such a totally unlikely suggestion. The reasons why she would not are multitudinous. Was it your suggestion, Lookout?

[Caroline]

yes but if it were true i think christine would have come forward by now

Spot on Sami!

[lookout]

It was said here - no where else. Her relationship with her mother was on the QT at the time. If a call was expected, don't you think Christine would have said so? It's just silly gossip.

Well you can blame your mate Holly for the silly gossip as she started it in 2012.

[Jane]

Well, we would, because Christine would have said so. Just one of them 'add-ons'.

Well, unless she's one of those in the grand conspiracy to frame Jeremy, there's no reason she wouldn't.

[lookout]

Well you can blame your mate Holly for the silly gossip as she started it in 2012.

Also the reason why Sheila's bed hadn't been slept in as she'd waited for the call downstairs.

[Jane]

Also the reason why Sheila's bed hadn't been slept in as she'd waited for the call downstairs.

Then give a concise reason why Christine didn't come forward. Were international calls still having to be booked. Perhaps it was the night Christine got her own mother out of the nursing home and drove the poor old soul all the way to WHF and back, in the dead of night, without having an invite?

[Caroline]

Also the reason why Sheila's bed hadn't been slept in as she'd waited for the call downstairs.

It didn't happen Lookout.

[lookout]

It didn't happen Lookout.

Where did the rumour come from to be mentioned in the first place ?

[Jane]

Where did the rumour come from to be mentioned in the first place ?

From where did ANY of the rumours originate?

[sami]

Well you can blame your mate Holly for the silly gossip as she started it in 2012.

not all the blame as she started it in 2012 but your continuing it in 2020

[Caroline]

Where did the rumour come from to be mentioned in the first place ?

Someone's imagination.

[ngb1066]

Thank-you for that, Sami. I believe it was a fully automatic that Jeremy had wanted but was told it was "unsportsmanlike". I can see that dispatching a group of people might be easier for a competent shooter if they were using a fully automatic.

He did not want a fully automatic gun.  They are illegal in the UK.  He originally asked about a semi automatic shotgun, but ended up with the semi automatic rifle.

[ngb1066]

He wanted a fully automatic 'shot gun' - imagine the mess that could make?

No.  Semi automatic.

[ngb1066]

Right I see, was the fully auto hard to come by back then Sami?  RE licience ect?

Fully auto has been illegal in the UK since the 1930s.

[ngb1066]

why would you immediately think the trigger had been pressed again when .told the first shot killed them,pressed again by who when the person is dead it dont make sense

It was a hair trigger.  It is easy to fire by accident - even a slight twitch could do it.