Was this, the same bullet that was xrayed inside Sheila's neck?

[mike tesko]

Was this, the same bullet that was xrayed inside Sheila's neck?

Jeremy Bambers ballistic Expert. Major Mead, had the foresight to photograph the crime scene bullets when he visited the force amoury, and took pictures of bullet PV/20, which was supposed to be the non fatal bullet that wounded Sheila Caffell in th side of the neck, but as you can see it was not fragmented or anything like the bullet pieces that were photographed insitu by Xray...

[shonapugs]

Thanks for this, Mike, but it's the fatal bullet that we need to see. The one that appeared to be fragmented, but then magically became whole....................

[tyler]

Wasn't what appears to be a fragmented bullet,in the x-ray,explained away as displaced tissue?

[mike tesko]

Thanks for this, Mike, but it's the fatal bullet that we need to see. The one that appeared to be fragmented, but then magically became whole....................

... With respect, PV/20 is supposed to be the fragmented bullet, which somehow became transformed into a whole bullet, so that by 20th September 1985, the ballistic expert Malcomb Fletcher, could link it to the Bamber rifle - and one is left to contemplate, exactly how a fragmented bullet, as of 7th August, turned into a whole bullet by the time the ballistic expert examined it on 20th September?

[smiffy]

Wasn't what appears to be a fragmented bullet,in the x-ray,explained away as displaced tissue?

explained away my backside....You wont get any credible radiologist to support that claim of displaced tissue if they were honest.

fragmented bullet shown on x ray  ...no question there.
the substitution of an intact but mishapen bullet is evidence of falsification of evidence by those involved in my view...

[mike tesko]

Wasn't what appears to be a fragmented bullet,in the x-ray,explained away as displaced tissue?

... Fragmented bullet shown in xray, was confirmed by patholgist in his report, as having broken into three separate pieces after the bullet struck one of the vertebraes in Shiela's neck...

[tyler]

Was the pathologist challenged by the defence on how a bullet that had broken into 3 seperate pieces,was then produced as a whole bullet?

[curiousessex]

Wasn't what appears to be a fragmented bullet,in the x-ray,explained away as displaced tissue?

... Fragmented bullet shown in xray, was confirmed by patholgist in his report, as having broken into three separate pieces after the bullet struck one of the vertebraes in Shiela's neck...

Is it not possible for the bullet shown in the picture to be the largest fragment as shown within the X-ray of Sheila's neck.

The pitcure of the bullet PV/20 does not look like a complete bullet as the rear of the bullet has collapsed,appears torn and only attached on one side of the front of the bullet.

PV/20 is pictured from a front perspective and the X-ray will have captured the bullet from the rear perspective. Given proportions and angles etc. is it not possible for the top part of a bullet within the X ray to be the rear perspective of PV/20 from a different angle?

The other fragments within the X-ray could thus be the missing portions of PV/20.

[mike tesko]

Wasn't what appears to be a fragmented bullet,in the x-ray,explained away as displaced tissue?

... Fragmented bullet shown in xray, was confirmed by patholgist in his report, as having broken into three separate pieces after the bullet struck one of the vertebraes in Shiela's neck...

Is it not possible for the bullet shown in the picture to be the largest fragment as shown within the X-ray of Sheila's neck.

The pitcure of the bullet PV/20 does not look like a complete bullet as the rear of the bullet has collapsed,appears torn and only attached on one side of the front of the bullet.

PV/20 is pictured from a front perspective and the X-ray will have captured the bullet from the rear perspective. Given proportions and angles etc. is it not possible for the top part of a bullet within the X ray to be the rear perspective of PV/20 from a different angle?

The other fragments within the X-ray could thus be the missing portions of PV/20.

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If so, how come the ballistic expert, Flecther, described the bullet (PV/20) as  whole bullet, if it was still a fragmented one?

[andrea]

Hi all , sorry if this sounds dim but would the displaced flesh in shells neck look like that on an xray? I could understand bone looking like that obviously, but flesh?

[Alias]

Hi all , sorry if this sounds dim but would the displaced flesh in shells neck look like that on an xray? I could understand bone looking like that obviously, but flesh?

I dón´t think so. Bone fragments maybe, but not flesh.

[mike tesko]

Hi all , sorry if this sounds dim but would the displaced flesh in shells neck look like that on an xray? I could understand bone looking like that obviously, but flesh?

I dón´t think so. Bone fragments maybe, but not flesh.

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If bone fragments, where did the bullet end up, and why is it not visible?

[smiffy]

hmm bone fragments...
 the only bones in that area that could possibly fragment would be the neck bones.
full intact neckbones in that radiograph show up far darker than the bullet fragments.  fragments ...ie thin bits of bone ...will be darker still in appearance than intact neck bones...due to being thinner.

the bright bits of the radiograph are where the x rays dont pass through as well ...due to  basically density and thickness of the items concerned.

[mike tesko]

hmm bone fragments...
 the only bones in that area that could possibly fragment would be the neck bones.
full intact neckbones in that radiograph show up far darker than the bullet fragments.  fragments ...ie thin bits of bone ...will be darker still in appearance than intact neck bones...due to being thinner.

the bright bits of the radiograph are where the x rays dont pass through as well ...due to  basically density and thickness of the items concerned.

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Pathologist confirms that bullet (PV/20) fragmented upon striking one of the vertebrae's in Sheila's neck, and that the bullet broke up into three main pieces, now if this is true, where did these three pieces end up, and more importantly. are those three pieces of bullet shown up in the xray?