The Truth and the Documentary

[ILB]

Furthermore, from my perspective how does he go about undermining her? It's her word against his.

[ILB]

Let's be perfectly honest. From day one of his conviction Bamber has had an uphill struggle to fight his conviction more than any other moj I have ever come across. No evidence against him but his character and own behaviour ( ie arragance shown as a posh boy 24 year old against him

[Steve_uk]

You would still expect the matter of Julie and her evidence to be a daily concern had she been the star witness as you claim and told a tissue of lies in the witness box. Yet we never hear about her. I can only surmise that his legal team have told him the issue is far too dangerous to raise and they should let sleeping dogs lie..

[Jane]

on the contrary it's a complete different scenario entirely, although Colin was the father of the twins
 He is unconnected to the case in the same magnitude reference criminal proceedings as Julie was. Her of course, being the prosecutions star witness....

Are you saying that this is transference? That because he couldn't vent the anger at her that he felt for Julie, he redirected it to Colin?

[Jane]

You would still expect the matter of Julie and her evidence to be a daily concern had she been the star witness as you claim and told a tissue of lies in the witness box. Yet we never hear about her. I can only surmise that his legal team have told him the issue is far too dangerous to raise and they should let sleeping dogs lie..

None of which will prevent him from FEELING anger, Steve. If it's still there, but suppressed, he COULD be like a ticking time bomb unless he has ways of diffusing it, ie boxing, gymnastics?

[Steve_uk]

Let's be perfectly honest. From day one of his conviction Bamber has had an uphill struggle to fight his conviction more than any other moj I have ever come across. No evidence against him but his character and own behaviour ( ie arragance shown as a posh boy 24 year old against him

What nonsense. He telephoned Julie three times within the space of several hours August 6/7 1985 and yet claimed under police interrogation a month later that their relationship had been cooling for months. He told Michael Deckers during the Christmas season 1984 that if the Farm burned down then everything would be his, which tallies directly with Julie's statement. The plan to effectively use police as an alibi was dependent on him concocting an excuse to be at the Farm in the wee hours of August 7, hence the massive mistake of the invented telephone call from his father. The silencer was the icing on the cake if you'll pardon the expression.

[guest7363]

Let's be perfectly honest. From day one of his conviction Bamber has had an uphill struggle to fight his conviction more than any other moj I have ever come across. No evidence against him but his character and own behaviour ( ie arragance shown as a posh boy 24 year old against him

I think he got the hump when he had his Game boy stolen bless him, imagine spending all that time without his gameboy, glad he got compensated,   hope you didn’t have anything to do with it ilovebooze

[ILB]

Are you saying that this is transference? That because he couldn't vent the anger at her that he felt for Julie, he redirected it to Colin?

your making a mountain out of a mole Hill. Colin and Julie are a totally separate entity here. We all have  emotions here, we all vent. We all have anger sometimes .. look at the date of the letter, early 89... Not long after the first appeal was dismissed.

[Steve_uk]

your making a mountain out of a mole Hill. Colin and Julie are a totally separate entity here. We all have  emotions here, we all vent. We all have anger sometimes .. look at the date of the letter, early 89... Not long after the first appeal was dismissed.

But according to your reasoning Julie instigated his downfall, yet very little remonstrance on her subject.

[Steve_uk]

I think he got the hump when he had his Game boy stolen bless him, imagine spending all that time without his gameboy, glad he got compensated,   hope you didn’t have anything to do with it ilovebooze

He has a badminton lesson doesn't he? I don't care what he does, don't wish him any harm, but he should never be released.

[ILB]

What nonsense. He telephoned Julie three times within the space of several hours August 6/7 1985 and yet claimed under police interrogation a month later that their relationship had been cooling for months. He told Michael Deckers during the Christmas season 1984 that if the Farm burned down then everything would be his, which tallies directly with Julie's statement. The plan to effectively use police as an alibi was dependent on him concocting an excuse to be at the Farm in the wee hours of August 7, hence the massive mistake of the invented telephone call from his father. The silencer was the icing on the cake if you'll pardon the blunt expression.

so why didn't Julie act, or Michael Decker's. Given the information Jeremy had given them what he had done?? Referenced it many times Stephen... Five murders including two little boys... Not a stolen pint of milk. Why no sudden conscience on the behalf of these prosecution startlets? Why keep enjoying Jeremy's company in the aftermath? And reference the silencer I've said this before, do you know what the purpose of a silencer is??? And it's effectiveness?

[Jane]

your making a mountain out of a mole Hill. Colin and Julie are a totally separate entity here. We all have  emotions here, we all vent. We all have anger sometimes .. look at the date of the letter, early 89... Not long after the first appeal was dismissed.

Of course we do, but anger is anger is anger. I'm not sure how anger about situation A can be measured against situation B, nor am I sure that one person's anger can be measured, on a scale of 1-10 against another's. However, how people deal with anger CAN be measured.

[ILB]

But according to your reasoning Julie instigated his downfall, yet very little remonstrance on her subject.

how do you know Steve, have you done a forecast of every single day of Bambers imprisonment since day one? You don't have a clue do you....

[Steve_uk]

so why didn't Julie act, or Michael Decker's. Given the information Jeremy had given them what he had done?? Referenced it many times Stephen... Five murders including two little boys... Not a stolen pint of milk. Why no sudden conscience on the behalf of these prosecution startlets? Why keep enjoying Jeremy's company in the aftermath? And reference the silencer I've said this before, do you know what the purpose of a silencer is??? And it's effectiveness?

Well I would hazard a guess that if it's your plan to overpower 5 people the element of surprise is heightened if the sound of the bullets are muffled slightly. Of course Julie should have told someone in her coterie of what her boyfriend was musing. Michael Deckers I don't think can be blamed for not reporting speculation about a house fire.

[Steve_uk]

how do you know Steve, have you done a forecast of every single day of Bambers imprisonment since day one? You don't have a clue do you....

I'm going off the Bambertweets, the sickening self-pitying scribbling of a person who knows he's been caught in the act, with only sympathy for himself and not the victims or their relatives left behind. http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7978.msg378364.html#msg378364