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Offline David1819

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Re: Jeremy Bamber trial examination
« Reply #135 on: November 16, 2019, 10:51:PM »
Pretty grim isn't it ?

Very much so.

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« Reply #136 on: November 16, 2019, 10:55:PM »
Very much so.




Was that ever read out to the jury ?

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Re: Jeremy Bamber trial examination
« Reply #137 on: November 16, 2019, 11:09:PM »



Was that ever read out to the jury ?

No.

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« Reply #138 on: November 17, 2019, 12:11:AM »
Colin expressed his desire to have full custody of the twins in a letter he wrote to Nevil.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2762.msg91987.html#msg91987

The letter was never send but it does give us a snapshot of what was going on in Colins mind at the time.

He doesn't say anything about 'custody' he said 'full control over their well being' and that is what he had as Sheila was unable to make decisions for them. The letter highlights someone living in their own world who was unable to even get out of bed in the morning and totally consistent with other description of her as being 'like a zombie' - someone 'over sedated'.
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Re: Jeremy Bamber trial examination
« Reply #139 on: November 17, 2019, 08:15:AM »
He doesn't say anything about 'custody' he said 'full control over their well being' and that is what he had as Sheila was unable to make decisions for them. The letter highlights someone living in their own world who was unable to even get out of bed in the morning and totally consistent with other description of her as being 'like a zombie' - someone 'over sedated'.

He wouldn't have full control if he didn't have full custody though.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber trial examination
« Reply #140 on: November 17, 2019, 08:36:AM »



Was that ever read out to the jury ?


Why would it be? Sheila wasn't on trial and her competency as a mother wasn't the question.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber trial examination
« Reply #141 on: November 17, 2019, 08:38:AM »
It would have been relevant to the defence though.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber trial examination
« Reply #142 on: November 17, 2019, 09:07:AM »
The defence were pretty hopeless weren't they ?

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« Reply #143 on: November 17, 2019, 09:15:AM »
Has or had JB ever read or seen that letter by Colin ? Would he have known about it prior to the murders ?

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« Reply #144 on: November 17, 2019, 09:33:AM »
He wouldn't have full control if he didn't have full custody though.
So don’t you think the whole idea of fostering was a lie then?  If Colin had full control Neville/June had no say whatsoever.

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« Reply #145 on: November 17, 2019, 09:41:AM »
So don’t you think the whole idea of fostering was a lie then?  If Colin had full control Neville/June had no say whatsoever.

I get the impression that June and Nevill didn't really take Colin into account when they were discussing what to do about Sheila and the twins.

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« Reply #146 on: November 17, 2019, 02:00:PM »
He wouldn't have full control if he didn't have full custody though.

He did because they were living with him! Sheila had no inut because of her illness.
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« Reply #147 on: November 17, 2019, 02:05:PM »
He did because they were living with him! Sheila had no inut because of her illness.

Yes, but legally she could have had them live with her too because of the joint custody.

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« Reply #148 on: November 17, 2019, 02:07:PM »
Yes, but legally she could have had them live with her too because of the joint custody.

Which is why he made it clear to Nevil that he wanted full control, for all of the reasons in his letter. At no time did he state he was going for LEGAL FULL CUSTODY. He obviously wrote the letter in anger which is why he didn't send it.
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« Reply #149 on: November 17, 2019, 02:19:PM »
Which is why he made it clear to Nevil that he wanted full control, for all of the reasons in his letter. At no time did he state he was going for LEGAL FULL CUSTODY. He obviously wrote the letter in anger which is why he didn't send it.

It wasn't up to Nevill to give full control, and he couldn't control what Sheila did in her own home. Full control means full custody.