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Offline ILB

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Re: Perjury that went unchallenged at trial.
« Reply #240 on: November 13, 2019, 09:20:PM »
Have you never been in love..
yes, and I still am and if my beloved told me they had killed five members of their family, I wouldn't be accompanying them on holiday or enjoying chinese banquets with them steve
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Re: Perjury that went unchallenged at trial.
« Reply #241 on: November 13, 2019, 09:21:PM »
yes, and I still am and if my beloved told me they had killed five members of their family, I wouldn't be accompanying them on holiday or enjoying chinese banquets with them steve
But you're not 20 years old and infatuated..

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Re: Perjury that went unchallenged at trial.
« Reply #242 on: November 13, 2019, 09:26:PM »
but was there a secret to be kept in the first place caroline?

I believe there was.
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Re: Perjury that went unchallenged at trial.
« Reply #243 on: November 13, 2019, 09:26:PM »
But you're not 20 years old and infatuated..
I could be 15 year old wearing braces, and have acne and still speak to a police officer at the first available opportunity
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Re: Perjury that went unchallenged at trial.
« Reply #244 on: November 13, 2019, 09:27:PM »
yes, and I still am and if my beloved told me they had killed five members of their family, I wouldn't be accompanying them on holiday or enjoying chinese banquets with them steve

Me either but like I said, she isn't unique.
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Re: Perjury that went unchallenged at trial.
« Reply #245 on: November 13, 2019, 09:29:PM »
Me either but like I said, she isn't unique.
she isn't, but she is still a human being, with a brain and a consience. It can't be excused Caroline...
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Re: Perjury that went unchallenged at trial.
« Reply #246 on: November 13, 2019, 09:34:PM »
she isn't, but she is still a human being, with a brain and a consience. It can't be excused Caroline...

Of course it shouldn't and had she told someone what Jeremy was saying to her before the murders, they might never have happened. I don't think anyone condones her initial silence but she did eventually come clean - even if part of her reasons were selfish.
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Re: Perjury that went unchallenged at trial.
« Reply #247 on: November 13, 2019, 09:44:PM »
she isn't, but she is still a human being, with a brain and a consience. It can't be excused Caroline...


No it can't, and I don't think anyone here has tried  -my guess is that it's something which will haunt her for the rest of her life- but trying to explain and understand why anyone does what they do, isn't condoning it.

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Re: Perjury that went unchallenged at trial.
« Reply #248 on: November 13, 2019, 09:45:PM »
Of course it shouldn't and had she told someone what Jeremy was saying to her before the murders, they might never have happened. I don't think anyone condones her initial silence but she did eventually come clean - even if part of her reasons were selfish.
from my stance im not looking at it from what Jeremy Bamber may have remarked to her months before. If I was to jump to Julie's defence I could dismiss Jeremy's remarks to her back in 1984 as little more than " temper tantrums or hissy fits" " spoilt son scenario," but if I go by what Julie says what Jeremy Bamber told her on the day of the massacre, then I find it very hard of what we know in the aftermath to believe a word she says, and I'm shocked the jury did
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Re: Perjury that went unchallenged at trial.
« Reply #249 on: November 13, 2019, 09:47:PM »

No it can't, and I don't think anyone here has tried  -my guess is that it's something which will haunt her for the rest of her life- but trying to explain and understand why anyone does what they do, isn't condoning it.
it would more haunt you if you didn't alert authorities on the police journey from lewishsam to tollenshunt Darcy Jane
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Re: Perjury that went unchallenged at trial.
« Reply #250 on: November 13, 2019, 10:00:PM »
it would more haunt you if you didn't alert authorities on the police journey from lewishsam to tollenshunt Darcy Jane


That's not OUR problem, though, is it? It's Julie who has to cope with whatever fallout she experiences from it. WE don't need to lose sleep over it.

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Re: Perjury that went unchallenged at trial.
« Reply #251 on: November 13, 2019, 10:08:PM »
from my stance im not looking at it from what Jeremy Bamber may have remarked to her months before. If I was to jump to Julie's defence I could dismiss Jeremy's remarks to her back in 1984 as little more than " temper tantrums or hissy fits" " spoilt son scenario," but if I go by what Julie says what Jeremy Bamber told her on the day of the massacre, then I find it very hard of what we know in the aftermath to believe a word she says, and I'm shocked the jury did

Well, hissy fits or not, it's really not usual to plan your families demise, talking about it regularly. I've probably said I hated my mum and dad at some point, but never pictured how I might do'em in. Even if he had mentioned nothing the previous night, I think she would still have wondered if it was him. If someone talked about killing their family and they ended up dead - I know which suspect I'd bet on.
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Re: Perjury that went unchallenged at trial.
« Reply #252 on: November 13, 2019, 10:25:PM »
Well, hissy fits or not, it's really not usual to plan your families demise, talking about it regularly. I've probably said I hated my mum and dad at some point, but never pictured how I might do'em in. Even if he had mentioned nothing the previous night, I think she would still have wondered if it was him. If someone talked about killing their family and they ended up dead - I know which suspect I'd bet on.





I wouldn't suspect the person who'd said it but the person who didn't !!

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Re: Perjury that went unchallenged at trial.
« Reply #253 on: November 13, 2019, 11:06:PM »




I wouldn't suspect the person who'd said it but the person who didn't !!

What? So you would suspect everyone but not the person making the confession? OK, really good thing you didn't go down the police officer route!
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Re: Perjury that went unchallenged at trial.
« Reply #254 on: November 13, 2019, 11:15:PM »
Well, hissy fits or not, it's really not usual to plan your families demise, talking about it regularly. I've probably said I hated my mum and dad at some point, but never pictured how I might do'em in. Even if he had mentioned nothing the previous night, I think she would still have wondered if it was him. If someone talked about killing their family and they ended up dead - I know which suspect I'd bet on.

exactly which makes all themore telling that she dident come forward straight away.