Perjury that went unchallenged at trial.

[ILB]

You haven't answered my question. In fact, I don't think you've answered ANY questions. You just move goal-posts. I don't believe you have interest in anything here other than trolling.

you are totally wrong. But I'm willing to answer your question what is it?

[Jane]

Steve, JB had Valium so I doubt he'd have been prescribed sleeping pills in addition. There were probably hundreds of sleeping pills at WHF before June's medication was removed.

Why would Jeremy have needed to take Valium prior to the murders? Whilst I'm not sure about the "probably hundreds of sleeping pills at WHF........." there would have been some but I can't see June leaving them laying around, and Jeremy hadn't lived at WHF for several years so it's unlikely he'd have gone hunting for them, besides which, June would probably have missed them.

[ILB]

I'm not sure that Jeremy thought it was entirely wrong. He thought the twins were a mill-stone around Colin's neck and his parents were old -I think there may have been something about it being a kindness? Oh, and he said his mother was a religious maniac.

interesting... Why would Jeremy Bamber be stupid enough to tell Julie mugford of what he intended to do??

[lookout]

Why would Jeremy have needed to take Valium prior to the murders? Whilst I'm not sure about the "probably hundreds of sleeping pills at WHF........." there would have been some but I can't see June leaving them laying around, and Jeremy hadn't lived at WHF for several years so it's unlikely he'd have gone hunting for them, besides which, June would probably have missed them.

I didn't say he took Valium prior to the murders 

[ILB]

What's the relevance of someone taking valium...

[Steve_uk]

You haven't answered my question. In fact, I don't think you've answered ANY questions. You just move goal-posts. I don't believe you have interest in anything here other than trolling.

I'll reserve judgement for the moment but ilovebooze please direct your questions to the members as a whole and not to one particular individual.

[Jane]

Steve, JB had Valium so I doubt he'd have been prescribed sleeping pills in addition. There were probably hundreds of sleeping pills at WHF before June's medication was removed.

Lookout, this is what you said. "He had Valium so I doubt he'd have been prescribed sleeping pills in addition" He wasn't taking Valium at the time he wanted sleeping pills to drug his father, ergo, there was nothing to stop him requesting them from his doctor.......................other than if it had worked, the trail would have led back to him.

[ILB]

I'll reserve judgement for the moment but ilovebooze please direct your questions to the members as a whole and not to one particular individual.

no problem , you are wrong

[lookout]

Lookout, this is what you said. "He had Valium so I doubt he'd have been prescribed sleeping pills in addition" He wasn't taking Valium at the time he wanted sleeping pills to drug his father, ergo, there was nothing to stop him requesting them from his doctor.......................other than if it had worked, the trail would have led back to him.

You know as well as I do that he took the Valium after the tragedy, so therefore there was no need for him to have taken sleeping pills as well. It was JM who needed the sleeping pills.

[Jane]

You know as well as I do that he took the Valium after the tragedy, so therefore there was no need for him to have taken sleeping pills as well. It was JM who needed the sleeping pills.

Well, of course I know, but it seems that you're implying that he may have had them prior to the murders. He experimented with Julie's sleeping pills before the murders. To the best of my knowledge the two medications are entirely separate.

[lookout]

Well, of course I know, but it seems that you're implying that he may have had them prior to the murders. He experimented with Julie's sleeping pills before the murders. To the best of my knowledge the two medications are entirely separate.

Experimented on who ?

[Jane]

Experimented on who ?

Experimented with crushing them into Nevill's nightcap, after which it had been his intention to burn the house. He gave up on that plan because of the valuable objets d'art/family heirlooms which would be ruined.

[lookout]

Experimented with crushing them into Nevill's nightcap, after which it had been his intention to burn the house. He gave up on that plan because of the valuable objets d'art/family heirlooms which would be ruined.

Oh dear, he " gave up on the plan " because it wasn't there in the first place.

[Steve_uk]

Oh dear, he " gave up on the plan " because it wasn't there in the first place.

If it wasn't there there'd have to be collusion between Michael Deckers and Julie. I'm sorry but this is what I mean by jumping through hoops: every way you turn the circumstantial evidence is damning against Jeremy.

[lookout]

If it wasn't there there'd have to be collusion between Michael Deckers and Julie. I'm sorry but this is what I mean by jumping through hoops: every way you turn the circumstantial evidence is damning against Jeremy.

Circumstantial evidence isn't always enough though in such a case as it was.