Marks on Nevils arm.

[Caroline]

Do you believe Stan Jones put the blood and paint on the silencer. Then asked the relatives to say they found it?

Why would Stan Jones care so much to commit his own crime?

How would Stan Jones know if there was enough evidence or not? If he was in the know, he would know a mountain of forensic & circumstantial evidence against Bamber was building up.

He did worry he didn't have enough evidence - why he would do that isn't really something I can answer and of course I could be completely wrong. It's an opinion but he was certainly in  abetter position than the relatives to be able to do so.

[Adam]

He did worry he didn't have enough evidence - why he would do that isn't really something I can answer and of course I could be completely wrong. It's an opinion but he was certainly in  abetter position than the relatives to be able to do so.

Do you believe that Stan Jones acted alone inside Essex Police?

Why do believe he asked the relatives to say they found the silencer?

[Caroline]

Do you believe that Stan Jones acted alone inside Essex Police?

Why do believe he asked the relatives to say they found the silencer?

What I think in this respect, isn't important. I could only given an opinion anyway.

[Adam]

What I think in this respect, isn't important. I could only given an opinion anyway.

That is what forums are for. Opinions.

Stan Jones must have put Sheila's blood & the paint onto the silencer. After checking current evidence, the rifle lenght, Sheila's arm lenght, the possibility of back splatter on each victim & the crime scene photos.

Then asked the relatives to say they found the silencer.

[Caroline]

That is what forums are for. Opinions.

Stan Jones must have put Sheila's blood & the paint onto the silencer. After checking current evidence, the rifle lenght, Sheila's arm lenght, the possibility of back splatter on each victim & the crime scene photos.

Then asked the relatives to say they found the silencer.

If you say so.

[Kaldin]

I'm quite baffled by Jeremy's stance re these appeals. He seems to concentrate on minor issues really.

Let's just say for a moment that he's innocent. In that case, he must think the evidence was tampered with, it must have occurred to him that the silencer evidence was fake, and he knows that Julie was lying about some things at least. Why isn't he concentrating on those things? He did accuse his cousins of planting evidence, but it was a bit half hearted. Does he really think that Sheila did use the silencer and put it back in the cupboard?

[Adam]

If you say so.

Well you are the one saying so. Stan Jones had to have asked the relatives to say they found the silencer he fabricated. As the relatives have always said they found it.

But people have different views. David & Jeremy accusing the relatives while Mike has lots of theories.

[Kaldin]

Well you are the one saying so. Stan Jones had to have asked the relatives to say they found the silencer he fabricated. As the relatives have always said they found it.

But people have different views. David & Jeremy accusing the relatives while Mike has lots of theories.

Unless it was put there for them to find. That document which a lot of people think is fake - I wonder if Jeremy thinks it's fake. He must know about it, and if he thought it was genuine, he would surely have kicked up a huge fuss.

[Caroline]

I'm quite baffled by Jeremy's stance re these appeals. He seems to concentrate on minor issues really.

Let's just say for a moment that he's innocent. In that case, he must think the evidence was tampered with, it must have occurred to him that the silencer evidence was fake, and he knows that Julie was lying about some things at least. Why isn't he concentrating on those things? He did accuse his cousins of planting evidence, but it was a bit half hearted. Does he really think that Sheila did use the silencer and put it back in the cupboard?

No, he doesn't think Sheila used it - he doesn't think/(know) it was used at all.

[Kaldin]

No, he doesn't think Sheila used it - he doesn't think/(know) it was used at all.

Well then he must either know that the evidence was planted, or he must think that the evidence was massively faulty. You'd think he'd concentrate more on that.

[Jane]

Well then he must either know that the evidence was planted, or he must think that the evidence was massively faulty. You'd think he'd concentrate more on that.

Of course, neither of which make him innocent. He has to be very careful about what he claims to know.

[Kaldin]

Of course, neither of which make him innocent. He has to be very careful about what he claims to know.

No he doesn't. He can merely take the stance that he didn't do it, and therefore the evidence must have been planted.

[Caroline]

Well then he must either know that the evidence was planted, or he must think that the evidence was massively faulty. You'd think he'd concentrate more on that.

Well, to be fair, a lot has been concentrated on it but to no avail. Quiet a lot of money was paid a few years ago to have theories 'Re: the silencer' tested but test remain incomplete. It was probably unwise to have submitted the results of such tests until they could have been completed. Here is  link the documentary made about the tests.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,370.msg189924.html#msg189924

[Caroline]

Unless it was put there for them to find. That document which a lot of people think is fake - I wonder if Jeremy thinks it's fake. He must know about it, and if he thought it was genuine, he would surely have kicked up a huge fuss.

What document, the one which is supposedly a statement from Stan Jones? It's a fake 100%.

[Kaldin]

What document, the one which is supposedly a statement from Stan Jones? It's a fake 100%.

Yes, but how can it be proved it's fake? Who faked it?

In any case, why would that bother Jeremy? If it helps his case, he wouldn't care if it was fake or not.