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Offline Kaldin

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Re: Marks on Nevils arm.
« Reply #105 on: November 03, 2019, 06:47:PM »
Well, as you've dismissed much of what is being discussed - what is it you actually do find relevant?

The silencer and the DNA, Julie's statements, the fact that Jeremy let his relatives into the farmhouse, the empty cartridges, the spare key, the wills, the blood on the bedroom carpet, Sheila's illness, the Bible, the whereabouts of Nevill when he was first shot, the fight in the kitchen, the order of death, etc, etc.

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Re: Marks on Nevils arm.
« Reply #106 on: November 03, 2019, 06:55:PM »
The silencer and the DNA, Julie's statements, the fact that Jeremy let his relatives into the farmhouse, the empty cartridges, the spare key, the wills, the blood on the bedroom carpet, Sheila's illness, the Bible, the whereabouts of Nevill when he was first shot, the fight in the kitchen, the order of death, etc, etc.

Well, I don't think the silencer was used but still think he's guilty
What about the DNA? Such experiments were carried out long after items were handled by various people
I find it irrelevant that he let the relatives in - so what?
What about the empty cartridges? But while we're on the subject of cartridges - where did the extra five come from on the counter top?
The doors were bolted so the spare key is irrelevant
What about the wills? He doesn't deny reading them.
What about the blood on the bedroom carpet?
Sheila was on medication for her illness
What about the bible?
The last three points call for assumptions. I think Nevill was on the stairs, don't think there was a fight in the kitchen, I think it was staged. We will never know the order of deaths for sure but I have given you my scenario.
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Re: Marks on Nevils arm.
« Reply #107 on: November 03, 2019, 06:59:PM »
Well, I don't think the silencer was used but still think he's guilty
What about the DNA? Such experiments were carried out long after items were handled by various people
I find it irrelevant that he let the relatives in - so what?
What about the empty cartridges? But while we're on the subject of cartridges - where did the extra five come from on the counter top?
The doors were bolted so the spare key is irrelevant
What about the wills? He doesn't deny reading them.
What about the blood on the bedroom carpet?
Sheila was on medication for her illness
What about the bible?
The last three points call for assumptions. I think Nevill was on the stairs, don't think there was a fight in the kitchen, I think it was staged. We will never know the order of deaths for sure but I have given you my scenario.

I can't answer all those at once. I was merely stating what I found relevant - as you asked.

However, it's interesting that you don't think the silencer was used. Why do you think that?

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Re: Marks on Nevils arm.
« Reply #108 on: November 03, 2019, 07:02:PM »
I can't answer all those at once. I was merely stating what I found relevant - as you asked.

However, it's interesting that you don't think the silencer was used. Why do you think that?

Because it doesn't fit and having written to Jeremy for some time, it's clear he 'knows' it wasn't used either. It was the source of too much forensic detail for me - far beyond coincidence. The only thing it didn't contain, was a video of the actual murder!  ;)
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« Reply #109 on: November 03, 2019, 07:03:PM »
Because it doesn't fit and having written to Jeremy for some time, it's clear he 'knows' it wasn't used either. It was the source of too much forensic detail for me - far beyond coincidence. The only thing it didn't contain, was a video of the actual murder!  ;)

It doesn't fit what? This is most interesting. Could you elaborate?

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« Reply #110 on: November 03, 2019, 07:04:PM »
It doesn't fit what? This is most interesting. Could you elaborate?

I just did - too much forensic detail - over egged!
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« Reply #111 on: November 03, 2019, 07:05:PM »
I just did - too much forensic detail - over egged!

So do you think evidence was planted or what?

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« Reply #112 on: November 03, 2019, 07:06:PM »
So do you think evidence was planted or what?

I presume so.
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Re: Marks on Nevils arm.
« Reply #113 on: November 03, 2019, 07:09:PM »
I presume so.

Well the paint and blood can't have got there by accident.

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« Reply #114 on: November 03, 2019, 07:22:PM »
Well the paint and blood can't have got there by accident.

Quite!
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« Reply #115 on: November 03, 2019, 07:23:PM »
I'm going to assume that you don't want to say what you really think because of the potential for libel.

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« Reply #116 on: November 03, 2019, 07:43:PM »
There would be a rumpus if Jeremy admitted after 34 years that he killed them all sans silencer. However succour is at hand for the relatives because I believe it was used.

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Re: Marks on Nevils arm.
« Reply #117 on: November 03, 2019, 08:52:PM »
Of course he'd been to the farm - he worked there.  ???

I did not say farm. I said supper.

He could have had supper at his cottage. But he is telling the truth that he went for supper at WHF. For a final check.
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« Reply #118 on: November 03, 2019, 11:58:PM »
I'm going to assume that you don't want to say what you really think because of the potential for libel.

To an extent but my main protagonist would be Stan Jones. I just think he thought he didn't have enough evidence.
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« Reply #119 on: November 04, 2019, 12:34:AM »
To an extent but my main protagonist would be Stan Jones. I just think he thought he didn't have enough evidence.

Do you believe Stan Jones put the blood and paint on the silencer. Then asked the relatives to say they found it?

Why would Stan Jones care so much to commit his own crime?

How would Stan Jones know if there was enough evidence or not? If he was in the know, he would know a mountain of forensic & circumstantial evidence against Bamber was building up.
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