Jeremy 'schumacher' Bamber

[ILB]

Bare in mind he makes the phonecall to west at 3.26am from head street

[Steve_uk]

For people who believe Bamber is guilty. Please give me a time estimate of when you roughly think he killed Shelia and did the staging....

He was cleaning himself up for those 26 missing minutes, so working backwards the bicycle ride could be done in as few as six minutes. https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/bicycle

[ILB]

He was cleaning himself up for those 26 missing minutes, so working backwards the bicycle ride could be done in as few as six minutes. https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/bicycle

no that's not what I asked. What time do you think Jeremy roughly killed Shelia ( the two shot suicide scenario) at whf on August 7th 1985....

[Steve_uk]

no that's not what I asked. What time do you think Jeremy roughly killed Shelia ( the two shot suicide scenario) at whf on August 7th 1985....

Well I'm saying you have to work back. He probably killed her around 2:30am, telephoned his answerphone from White House Farm, cycled back to Bourtree Cottage, cleaned up for 26 minutes then telephoned Julie around 3:10am.

[ILB]

Well I'm saying you have to work back. He probably killed her around 2:30am, telephoned his answerphone from White House Farm, cycled back to Bourtree Cottage, cleaned up for 26 minutes then telephoned Julie around 3:10am.

what do you think he did to clean up, in his relatively short window

[ILB]

what do you think he did to clean up, in his relatively short window

Steve what time did Jeremy claim his father called him 3.10?

[Caroline]

Steve what time did Jeremy claim his father called him 3.10?

He said around 03:10

[Steve_uk]

what do you think he did to clean up, in his relatively short window

He propped the bike up in the yard, retrieved the tape in his answerphone, undressed and showered, dried his hair, washed all the clothes he had worn for the murders, put on fresh clothing (and overdid it), telephoned Julie then police.

[Caroline]

what do you think he did to clean up, in his relatively short window

We don't know what time they died so have have no idea how long or short the window was.

[ILB]

He said around 03:10

so how is he both on the phone to Julie,and nevill on a standard landline in august 1985 at 3.10??

[ILB]

We don't know what time they died so have have no idea how long or short the window was.

did the pathologist reckon an estimate ?

[Caroline]

so how is he both on the phone to Julie,and nevill on a standard landline in august 1985 at 3.10??

Well he isn't - because if you believe he's guilty, there was no call from Nevill.

[ILB]

I am aware the farmhouse wasn't entered until hours later

[ILB]

Well he isn't - because if you believe he's guilty, there was no call from Nevill.

on the flip side if Jeremy has been believed to have planned this to a vital tee. Why would he serve himself up this way. By giving times that could be contradicted that he wasn't on phone to one person at any given time?

[Caroline]

did the pathologist reckon an estimate ?

No, by the time he saw the bodies, they had been dead for some time and he said TOD is difficult to estimate. Dr craig who pronounced death just said they had been dead for 'some hours'.