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Offline Kaldin

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« Reply #2370 on: February 10, 2020, 07:00:PM »
Isn't it all a bit convenient that the silencer had blood and paint on it? Talk about "smoking gun".

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« Reply #2371 on: February 10, 2020, 07:09:PM »
Isn't it all a bit convenient that the silencer had blood and paint on it? Talk about "smoking gun".

Yes, I dont like the silencer find. I feel uneasy with it. But at the same time, had the police taken more photos,  they may have been able to prove it wasn't there at the time if the murders. That said, I think all parties accept that the silencer did indeed exist... just what part it played is much more difficult to ascertain.

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« Reply #2372 on: February 10, 2020, 07:16:PM »
Besides there being a silencer there was also a metal cap ( exhibit 49 ) which was found in the gun cupboard which nobody knew anything about. Was it AP's or NB's ?

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« Reply #2373 on: February 10, 2020, 07:28:PM »
Physical evidence rules the silencer out being used in the crime. What else do you have?
What physical evidence? Some Irishman firing a rifle into pigskin?

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« Reply #2374 on: February 12, 2020, 10:50:AM »
I haven't read all the posts on the subject of this TV drama so forgive me if this quetion has already been asked. The actor who plays Jeremy never went to see Jeremy in prison when asked why no he replied that he thought they had all the material that they needed so speaking to Bamber himself seemed to be superfluous.
I wonder what your thoughts are concerning this? This man intended to play Bamber yet omits to speak to the chief witness to the murders. Whether you believe he is guilty or not don't you think that this is a rather big omission considering that Bamber is the only person still living who actually knows what went on that night?

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« Reply #2375 on: February 12, 2020, 11:19:AM »
Grahame---what can I say, except welcome and I hope you're alright.

I've mentioned this before about people not meeting others in order to form an overall opinion, instead of going by what others say/think.
The opportunity would have been there for the actor to meet Jeremy but was he told so many horror stories that he felt he wouldn't come out in one piece ?
The author of the book herself only lived minutes away but didn't bother to go and see him before/during writing her book.

How on earth can these people judge someone while either writing about them or acting their part ?

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« Reply #2376 on: February 12, 2020, 11:52:AM »
I haven't read all the posts on the subject of this TV drama so forgive me if this quetion has already been asked. The actor who plays Jeremy never went to see Jeremy in prison when asked why no he replied that he thought they had all the material that they needed so speaking to Bamber himself seemed to be superfluous.
I wonder what your thoughts are concerning this? This man intended to play Bamber yet omits to speak to the chief witness to the murders. Whether you believe he is guilty or not don't you think that this is a rather big omission considering that Bamber is the only person still living who actually knows what went on that night?

Welcome back Grahame.


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« Reply #2377 on: February 12, 2020, 12:26:PM »
I haven't read all the posts on the subject of this TV drama so forgive me if this quetion has already been asked. The actor who plays Jeremy never went to see Jeremy in prison when asked why no he replied that he thought they had all the material that they needed so speaking to Bamber himself seemed to be superfluous.
I wonder what your thoughts are concerning this? This man intended to play Bamber yet omits to speak to the chief witness to the murders. Whether you believe he is guilty or not don't you think that this is a rather big omission considering that Bamber is the only person still living who actually knows what went on that night?


Hello ! and welcome back

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« Reply #2378 on: February 12, 2020, 12:53:PM »
I haven't read all the posts on the subject of this TV drama so forgive me if this quetion has already been asked. The actor who plays Jeremy never went to see Jeremy in prison when asked why no he replied that he thought they had all the material that they needed so speaking to Bamber himself seemed to be superfluous.
I wonder what your thoughts are concerning this? This man intended to play Bamber yet omits to speak to the chief witness to the murders. Whether you believe he is guilty or not don't you think that this is a rather big omission considering that Bamber is the only person still living who actually knows what went on that night?

The producers did not consult anyone as far as i can see except colin . They had already decided the format of  the drama so there was no need in their eyes .

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« Reply #2379 on: February 12, 2020, 01:03:PM »
Welcome back Grahame.

So happy to see you back
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #2380 on: February 12, 2020, 05:51:PM »
What physical evidence? Some Irishman firing a rifle into pigskin?

Muzzle imprints on Sheila's chin.
Absence of Bone, Skin, Blood or DNA from Nicholas Caffell.
Marks on Nevills back and arm.
Absence of debris under the mantle shelf.
Pathologists testimony precluding such altercation causing the scratch marks.

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« Reply #2381 on: February 12, 2020, 06:38:PM »

76.

Inside the moderator, on the four or five baffles nearest to the end from which the bullet would exit, there was a considerable amount of blood. At one point blood had pooled to form a flake when it dried, and this flake was subjected to group testing.

Results were obtained for four of the five tests performed. Mr Hayward, the forensic scientist said that they showed that the blood could have come from Sheila Caffell but not from any of the other individuals involved.

Mr. Hayward said that there was a possibility that the blood could be a mixture of blood from more than one person and if it was, a mixture of blood from Nevill Bamber and June Bamber could account for the findings in the grouping tests. However he judged that possibility to be a "remote" one.

eh i thought it was said it could have been shiela of bouflour ... letter from huntingdon science lab that wasn’t shown at trial?

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« Reply #2382 on: February 12, 2020, 06:47:PM »
'Remote' is a generous word.

The chance of back splatter coming from both June & Nevill from the shots they received is remote. Then both sets of blood mixing is even more remote.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #2383 on: February 12, 2020, 06:54:PM »
eh i thought it was said it could have been shiela of bouflour ... letter from huntingdon science lab that wasn’t shown at trial?

Exactly . Something Adam chooses to ignore .

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« Reply #2384 on: February 12, 2020, 10:09:PM »
Thank goodness the series is over . Tonight was so sketchy and missed so much out . None of the families evidence at all . Nothing about the silencer , I could go on . ( because it’s annoying)

The only good scene was the last one where you could see a flicker of doubt across jones face when he realised Sheila was getting the pay off from the news of the world .