The ITV Drama

[David1819]

I totally agree Steve....I firmly believe JB disliked the twins from their birth because JB's inheritance would be spread to include the twins. I've looked back over JB's statements particularly his first one when he speaks of dates when he went to Australia aged 19 and the time Sheila left the farm at 17. I got the impression JB was jealous of the attention the twins were given by Neville and June...at  one point Neville considered Shelia moved into JB''s Cottage. It's worth looking where JB was during Shelia's break up from her husband! Blaming his sister for the murders was convenient owing to her illness, after which JB wouldn't be drawn into any talk about the twins, saying it was up to Colin what happened after their deaths. Even when speaking to authors and members from this site JB would not talk about the twins! He also firstly refused to enter the twins bedroom with Ann Easton.  Talk by the family early on the night of the murders was ( as told by Jeremy) about the twins welfare, I firmly believe this is what tipped JB over the edge.... Jealousy can turn one mind.

This is one of his "twisted" letters to CAL

"I have no desire to see my name in print, I don’t even care that you might actually write a book that’s 100% championing my innocence – you’re not going to tell me something I don’t already know – so this is about my deceased family and setting the record straight for them, highlighting the difficulties society has with mental illness and sympathetically dealing with the issues around women who kill . . . Sheila doesn’t have a voice to explain why or what she was experiencing, or whether she even knew what she was doing. I won’t let anyone just prosecute her as some sort of evil lunatic – I’m all she has to rely on to speak for her . . . It’s also important that mum and dad are portrayed properly . . . no one has stood up for them, put them in a proper light, again it’s my duty to tell it as it was . . . As for the boys, the only person who should decide on how they are written about is their dad Colin . . . they are the ultimate innocents and the greatest tragedy of all this . . . I owe it to my family to speak for them. . . my relatives are keeping silent as they are scared they’d let the truth out and then have to give back all the money they have gorged on over the years that was never rightfully theirs."

Sounds reasonable to me.

[David1819]

as we know we all talk about scenarios and everyone is very willing to accept that sheila would just lay there and not try and resist , fight  or defend herself . She and Jeremy had to get in exactly the right place to fake the suicide as he shot her . It’s been suggested that she gave up because she had lost everything as she knew jeremy had shot the twins .

However the other scenario is that she would have done anything to make sure jeremy did not get away with killing her precious boys and would have fought to the bitter end .


It’s an odd situation . And so many permutations.

It seems to me from recent posts it all boils down to the silencer and the “blood “ evidence . Solve that and the truth could be found .

The expression on Sheila's face does not resemble someone murdered. Contrary to June who looks terrified. These people did not die in same circumstances.

[Steve_uk]

The expression on Sheila's face does not resemble someone murdered. Contrary to June who looks terrified. These people did not die in same circumstances.

Sheila was a schizophrenic..

[David1819]

Sheila was a schizophrenic..

Really? I never knew that. 

[Kaldin]

He told Liz Rimington. If you were not moved by Wednesday's episode there's really no hope for you..

You do know that Jeremy was not there when Sheila had the breakdown don't you? Freddie was there, and Colin's mother came over as well. The twins were picked up by Colin's father.

[JackieD]

Disgraceful that.  Someone should be sued for it.  Obviously Bamber cannot do so, which means he is easy prey for stuff like that.

Utter disbelief when watching this weeks part of the drama.

There is going to be a massive fall out from what is happening

When you start watching the drama it says the is a true story. The next clip states about thorough research. It can be proved both those statements are false.
It doesn’t matter what type of programme is on TV from a reality programme to a drama the people responsible for something being broadcast are accountable not only to the public but very much to the advertisers who have paid millions over the 6 weeks the drama has been shown.

There are so many rules and regulations regarding broadcasting and advertising I look forward to what is going to happen when the advertisers realise they have not been sold a “true story”

They could sue the production company
Every single member of the public can also complain.  No wonder Stephen Graham made the comments he did on Graham Norton.

As for Carol Ann Lee she could herself find herself in big trouble for what she has said in interviews and how she has portrayed JB

This could all end up in JB’s favour it becomes public knowledge the drama was not a true story

[JackieD]

I totally agree Steve....I firmly believe JB disliked the twins from their birth because JB's inheritance would be spread to include the twins. I've looked back over JB's statements particularly his first one when he speaks of dates when he went to Australia aged 19 and the time Sheila left the farm at 17. I got the impression JB was jealous of the attention the twins were given by Neville and June...at  one point Neville considered Shelia moved into JB''s Cottage. It's worth looking where JB was during Shelia's break up from her husband! Blaming his sister for the murders was convenient owing to her illness, after which JB wouldn't be drawn into any talk about the twins, saying it was up to Colin what happened after their deaths. Even when speaking to authors and members from this site JB would not talk about the twins! He also firstly refused to enter the twins bedroom with Ann Easton.  Talk by the family early on the night of the murders was ( as told by Jeremy) about the twins welfare, I firmly believe this is what tipped JB over the edge.... Jealousy can turn one mind.

You firmly believe?
Is that make believe
The fact is you don’t know do you ? Were you there since the twins birth ? When you make sweeping statements like that make sure you have something in the locker to back it up

[Kaldin]

I do think the drama is good but we have to remember that these are actors portraying characters who they don't know, so we can't just assume that Jeremy was as cold as he appears in the drama. Julie appears to be almost devoid of emotion too, other than at the twins' funeral and when Jeremy was on the phone to another woman.

[David1819]

I haven't watched any of it. By the sound of things, I haven't missed much.

[Adam]

The drama is a bit slow. Probably because you know where each scene is heading.

Lots of irritating basic mistakes which they did not need to make. Bamber was in a white police van when he gave his smile. Not a white car. That won't bother casual viewers.

Bit strange that the massacre is not shown.  They spent so much time inside WHF & the drama shows Bamber as the killer. They even had Julie's 10am & 3am phone calls. But CC said he did not want any shooting.

[Kaldin]

The drama is a bit slow. Probably because you know where each scene is heading.

Lots of irritating basic mistakes which they did not need to make. Bamber was in a white police van when he gave his smile. Not a white car. That won't bother casual viewers.

Bit strange that the massacre is not shown.  They spent so much time inside WHF & the drama shows Bamber as the killer. They even had Julie's 10am & 3am phone calls. But CC said he did not want any shooting.

Some others have said it's a bit slow, but there's a lot to fit in the last episode.

Maybe there should be a sequel as there are lots of issues which haven't been dealt with.

[lookout]

The drama is a bit slow. Probably because you know where each scene is heading.

Lots of irritating basic mistakes which they did not need to make. Bamber was in a white police van when he gave his smile. Not a white car. That won't bother casual viewers.

Bit strange that the massacre is not shown.  They spent so much time inside WHF & the drama shows Bamber as the killer. They even had Julie's 10am & 3am phone calls. But CC said he did not want any shooting.

" Bit strange that the massacre is not shown ? " For God's sake, what sort of a mind have you got ??

[Adam]

As a 6 part drama they covered the right period - massacre to conviction. That is where the drama is.

Having a long build up of Sheila & Bamber growing up pre massacre was not needed. People are aware why inheritance killers kill.

Spending a lot of time on the 35 years since conviction would also be duller. 
 

[Kaldin]

I would like to see more about the money trail, the changing of the Will, Ann moving into the farm, Julie selling her story, what happened to Colin and Heather, the wrangling between relatives over who should get the money, etc.

I would have liked to see some missing characters - Robert Boutflour, Anthony Pargeter, Susan Battersby.

[Adam]

I would like to see more about the money trail, the changing of the Will, Ann moving into the farm, Julie selling her story, what happened to Colin and Heather, the wrangling between relatives over who should get the money, etc.

I would have liked to see some missing characters - Robert Boutflour, Anthony Pargeter, Susan Battersby.

Julie's & Bamber's NOTW deals may be in the final episode.

At the very end of episode 6, there may be written explanations of what has happened to the main characters.