The ITV Drama

[Caroline]

There is only one statement in the archives , do you know the date of her first statement as I can’t seem to find it ?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8980.msg425591.html#msg425591

[guest7363]

Actually this is a good point . I think by having to give jeremy a motive to kill , they have to make him hate his family , and subsequently are potraying extreme behaviours for the parents as well.. And having spoken to  other people who knew him I am not convinced that’s true . They seem to have the normal ups and downs that any family had . I am not sure the extremes that have been portrayed were  true representation.  Perhaps if jeremy wanted to go out on his own they would have supported him , as they did sheila. They did their best . Just look at those old photos . They looked so happy . It’s all very sad .

Ha Ha, Brett didn’t help then, “how did he get on with his Father”. “Didn’t seem to be any love between them, not close”. “What bout his mother” “Jeremy mentioned  about giving her money away to church” “ Is it true he HATED his mother” “Yeah at times I would say so”. “Let’s move on to Sheila, what sort of relationship did Jeremy have with her” “ Not sort of brotherly”   If someone who hardly knew Bamber like Brett and only through chance meetings and overseas visits became aware of his family relationship, what did others more close know?

[maggie]

Ha Ha, Brett didn’t help then, “how did he get on with his Father”. “Didn’t seem to be any love between them, not close”. “What bout his mother” “Jeremy mentioned  about giving her money away to church” “ Is it true he HATED his mother” “Yeah at times I would say so”. “Let’s move on to Sheila, what sort of relationship did Jeremy have with her” “ Not sort of brotherly”   If someone who hardly knew Bamber like Brett and only through chance meetings and overseas visits became aware of his family relationship, what did others more close know?

Also Sheila was said to struggle with her mother, June is quoted as calling her ‘the Devil’s child’ amongst other things.  Anyone who has read Colin’s book is in no doubt how much Sheila hated her mother and also so did Colin particularly because of the way she had treated Sheila and for her general attitude and brhaviour.  The particular needs of the child and particularly the adopted child seemed to have been completely ignored by June.  While on the surface everything may have appeared normal enough there seemed to be massive dysfunction under the surface. 

[lookout]

How many brothers and sisters get on anyway ? Also there must be many who talk about their parents in this way too. JB certainly wasn't and won't be the only one.

[guest7363]

Also Sheila was said to struggle with her mother, June is quoted as calling her ‘the Devil’s child’ amongst other things.  Anyone who has read Colin’s book is in no doubt how much Sheila hated her mother and also so did Colin particularly because of the way she had treated Sheila and for her general attitude and brhaviour.  The particular needs of the child and particularly the adopted child seemed to have been completely ignored by June.  While on the surface everything may have appeared normal enough there seemed to be massive dysfunction under the surface.

The post from Jan was on about Bamber and not Sheila, we all know of Sheila’s struggles and accept them, it’s posters who will not accept Bamber’s own hatred.

[maggie]

The post from Jan was on about Bamber and not Sheila, we all know of Sheila’s struggles and accept them, it’s posters who will not accept Bamber’s own hatred.

But RJ, they were both brought up in the same way in the same house.  I don’t doubt JB hated her as much as Sheila did but being male dealt with it difgrtrntly.  Oddibly he shut it down but it doesn’t mean it wasn’t there.  My point is that they were probably both very damaged by their upbringing and therefore both possibly capable of murder because of hatred. If Sheila was a victim so was Jetemy.

[guest7363]

But RJ, they were both brought up in the same way in the same house.  I don’t doubt JB hated her as much as Sheila did but being male dealt with it difgrtrntly.  Oddibly he shut it down but it doesn’t mean it wasn’t there.  My point is that they were probably both very damaged by their upbringing and therefore both possibly capable of murder because of hatred. If Sheila was a victim so was Jetemy.

I accept what your saying, couple it with Jealousy and greed motifs and it’s a powerful combination.

[Jane]

But RJ, they were both brought up in the same way in the same house.  I don’t doubt JB hated her as much as Sheila did but being male dealt with it difgrtrntly.  Oddibly he shut it down but it doesn’t mean it wasn’t there.  My point is that they were probably both very damaged by their upbringing and therefore both possibly capable of murder because of hatred. If Sheila was a victim so was Jetemy.

Absolutely, Maggie. Whilst Sheila seems to have dealt with it emotionally, Jeremy dealt with it in the ultimate practical way!

[Jane]

I accept what your saying, couple it with Jealousy and greed motifs and it’s a powerful combination.

Mmm. Jealousy + greed=revenge?

[lookout]

Mmm. Jealousy + greed=revenge?

Which also applies to both .

[Jane]

Which also applies to both .

Why? Sheila wasn't materialistic. Her needs were emotional. Financially, she was catered for. I'll bet the purse strings were never tightened when it came to her needs because of the boys and their needs.

[lookout]

Why? Sheila wasn't materialistic. Her needs were emotional. Financially, she was catered for. I'll bet the purse strings were never tightened when it came to her needs because of the boys and their needs.

Oh, c'mon, I took you to be more intelligent than you appear to be.

Sheila had been materialistic. Why a property in Maida Vale ? Wasn't a cottage in the same village as her family good enough ?

It seems that while living with Colin she wanted her own way or threw a strop along with pots and pans.
In her younger life her parents bent over backwards to find her and fund her the job which she wanted and even that didn't seem enough. Parents funded her trip to Japan which was a waste of time and money. In the end Sheila didn't have to work. Wouldn't we all have loved such a life ?

[guest7363]

How many brothers and sisters get on anyway ? Also there must be many who talk about their parents in this way too. JB certainly wasn't and won't be the only one.

As a teenager growing up to maturity, Yes, this was regular theme by loose tongue Bamber, even into Adulthood, clearly expressed by Brett.

[lookout]

As a teenager growing up to maturity, Yes, this was regular theme by loose tongue Bamber, even into Adulthood, clearly expressed by Brett.

I would have said that those with " loose tongues " are less likely to commit crime against the deep-thinking quiet ones. Think about it.

[JackieD]

Oh, c'mon, I took you to be more intelligent than you appear to be.

Sheila had been materialistic. Why a property in Maida Vale ? Wasn't a cottage in the same village as her family good enough ?

It seems that while living with Colin she wanted her own way or threw a strop along with pots and pans.
In her younger life her parents bent over backwards to find her and fund her the job which she wanted and even that didn't seem enough. Parents funded her trip to Japan which was a waste of time and money. In the end Sheila didn't have to work. Wouldn't we all have loved such a life ?

Brilliant post. Spot on