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« Reply #2130 on: February 01, 2020, 09:07:PM »
They were probably not happy with the shelia and Colin scenario, but they still attended the wedding in 77 didn't they. Its called unconditional parental love stephen


In a register office with a reception in an hotel, rather than their family church service attended by family, friends and workers, with a marquee on the lawn. June forbade the church wedding because of Sheila's pregnancy. I wouldn't call THAT unconditional love.

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« Reply #2131 on: February 01, 2020, 09:12:PM »

In a register office with a reception in an hotel, rather than their family church service attended by family, friends and workers, with a marquee on the lawn. June forbade the church wedding because of Sheila's pregnancy. I wouldn't call THAT unconditional love.

Do you know if Colin and Sheila actually wanted a church wedding ?

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« Reply #2132 on: February 01, 2020, 09:14:PM »
They were probably not happy with the shelia and Colin scenario, but they still attended the wedding in 77 didn't they. Its called unconditional parental love stephen
Maybe Nevill and June would have come round presented with a fait accompli. Jeremy relented on marriage, but kept seeing Suzette behind their and Julie's back.

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« Reply #2133 on: February 01, 2020, 09:16:PM »
Do you know if Colin and Sheila actually wanted a church wedding ?
They wouldn't have had any alternative but to accede to June's wishes. I doubt Colin would have been bothered either way.

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« Reply #2134 on: February 01, 2020, 09:20:PM »
they didn't forbade anything. He was a grown man no ball and chain scenario. They loved Jeremy. They would have relented if he wanted to marry whoever. Mr and Mrs bamber were known to be kind and loving people.

Actually this is a good point . I think by having to give jeremy a motive to kill , they have to make him hate his family , and subsequently are potraying extreme behaviours for the parents as well.. And having spoken to  other people who knew him I am not convinced that’s true . They seem to have the normal ups and downs that any family had . I am not sure the extremes that have been portrayed were  true representation.  Perhaps if jeremy wanted to go out on his own they would have supported him , as they did sheila. They did their best . Just look at those old photos . They looked so happy . It’s all very sad .

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« Reply #2135 on: February 01, 2020, 09:24:PM »
There will be a thread soon about Malcolm Fletcher.

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« Reply #2136 on: February 01, 2020, 09:35:PM »
Actually this is a good point . I think by having to give jeremy a motive to kill , they have to make him hate his family , and subsequently are potraying extreme behaviours for the parents as well.. And having spoken to  other people who knew him I am not convinced that’s true . They seem to have the normal ups and downs that any family had . I am not sure the extremes that have been portrayed were  true representation.  Perhaps if jeremy wanted to go out on his own they would have supported him , as they did sheila. They did their best . Just look at those old photos . They looked so happy . It’s all very sad .
You're forgetting James Richards' evidence, a student who later became an army officer. For the uninitiated let me repeat it with the asterisks included for modesty's sake: "I f***ing hate my parents."

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« Reply #2137 on: February 01, 2020, 09:38:PM »
You're forgetting James Richards' evidence, a student who later became an army officer. For the uninitiated let me repeat it with the asterisks included for modesty's sake: "I f***ing hate my parents."

Waste of time Steve  ;D ;D
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« Reply #2138 on: February 01, 2020, 09:40:PM »
For the 44 guests who wish to receive an overview of the case please click on this link: http://betnod.com/threads/the-jeremy-bamber-case-still-beyond-reasonable-doubt.1338/

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« Reply #2139 on: February 01, 2020, 09:41:PM »
1) Jeremy is adopted in 1961, thus being deprived of his birth mother.

2) Jeremy is shunted off to boarding school aged 8, thus a second separation. He has bonded with neither parent.

3) Jeremy returns to White House Farm in the holidays for thirteen weeks a year. As every year passes he becomes more alienated.

4) He leaves Gresham's with few qualifications. He senses Nevill's disappointment.

5) June becomes ill in 1982 and is hospitalized in St. Andrew's, Northampton. Jeremy witnesses the hold religion has on her at first hand.

6) Sheila becomes ill in 1983 and is incarcerated in the above facility.

7) The love of Jeremy's life, Suzette Ford, is rejected by Nevill and June. Jeremy blames them for Suzette's three miscarriages.

 Meanwhile Sheila's children are growing up, and have gained the affection of their grandparents. Jeremy resents the difference in treatment they receive from his childhood.

9) Sheila becomes ill again in March 1985 and is placed back in St. Andrew's. Jeremy sees the bills on Nevill's desk. There is talk of sending Nicholas and Daniel to boarding school. June's mental state is still precarious and Barbara Wilson states she may change her will in favour of the twins.

10) Sheila makes the "All people are bad and should be killed remark" in front of June and Barbara. Did Jeremy get wind of this?

11) Jeremy muses about his heretofore theoretical plan of murdering all five whilst under the same roof. He questions Colin as to when the twins are coming to stay.

12) 6 August 1985. Jeremy dithers on the telephone to Julie: "it's now or never".

13) Jeremy watches a television programme on miscarriages. Suddenly he recalls Suzette's loss and the die is cast. He embarks on the diabolical journey.

Barbara Death
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #2140 on: February 01, 2020, 09:41:PM »
Waste of time Steve  ;D ;D
The guilters have no need to shovel anything under the carpet. Feel free to ask us why we hold steadfast to our convictions.

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« Reply #2141 on: February 01, 2020, 09:42:PM »
That's possible lookout but his heart wasn't in it. Barbara Wilson said he always had an ulterior motive.


Good old honest Barbara who likes to contradict herself
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #2142 on: February 01, 2020, 09:43:PM »
For the 44 guests who wish to receive an overview of the case please click on this link: http://betnod.com/threads/the-jeremy-bamber-case-still-beyond-reasonable-doubt.1338/
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« Reply #2143 on: February 01, 2020, 09:45:PM »
That's possible lookout but his heart wasn't in it. Barbara Wilson said he always had an ulterior motive.

You have no idea what was in his heart ??

I would like to hear more from Ilovebooze about his character
Someone impartial
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #2144 on: February 01, 2020, 09:47:PM »
You have no idea what was in his heart ??

I would like to hear more from Ilovebooze about his character
Someone impartial
Wasn't there a link to him throwing his voice mimicking a character from The Exorcist..