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Offline JackieD

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Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #1875 on: January 29, 2020, 11:14:PM »
Is this being shown in Canada?


I hope so

You treat Colin with no respect, give evidence when you know there is a prize at the end of it and then cut and run
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #1876 on: January 29, 2020, 11:23:PM »

I hope so

You treat Colin with no respect, give evidence when you know there is a prize at the end of it and then cut and run

Yes I do.

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« Reply #1877 on: January 29, 2020, 11:26:PM »
They missed out loads of stuff . Skimmed a lot . Julie is not shown enjoying the alleged high life with Jeremy , she is a quiet little nervous mouse , although it does show her being scorned and then going to the police . Hidden phone was mentioned and the family being accused of being more concerned with money than getting to the truth . Lots of assumptions about how neville was shot , they needed some of your more detailed analysis of hypothetical scenarios 😀

There is an old saying in hollywood. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

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« Reply #1878 on: January 29, 2020, 11:37:PM »
There is an old saying in hollywood. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.


It’s difficult because I know some people will say things are not relevant , but they could be .

I will be interested how they are going to portray Jeremy including Julie in his plans for the 12 months before the murders .

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« Reply #1879 on: January 29, 2020, 11:41:PM »


It’s difficult because I know some people will say things are not relevant , but they could be .

I will be interested how they are going to portray Jeremy including Julie in his plans for the 12 months before the murders .

Will they though?
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #1880 on: January 30, 2020, 06:59:AM »
Yes I do.

I think she meant Julie.  :P

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« Reply #1881 on: January 30, 2020, 07:45:AM »


It’s difficult because I know some people will say things are not relevant , but they could be .

I will be interested how they are going to portray Jeremy including Julie in his plans for the 12 months before the murders .


From the way it's portrayed thus far, Jeremy hasn't given any consideration to Julie. At best he's dismissive, at worst it's as if she's his chattel. Whilst not condoning any of it, I can quite see why she may have done certain things to elevate herself in his eyes.

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« Reply #1882 on: January 30, 2020, 10:22:AM »
I've said all along that Jeremy was a very immature 24 year old. Many of that age today are parents  !

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« Reply #1883 on: January 30, 2020, 10:29:AM »
I've said all along that Jeremy was a very immature 24 year old. Many of that age today are parents  !
yes but he was mature enough to live on his own and enjoy trips abroad by himself.but i agree mentally he was as you described

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« Reply #1884 on: January 30, 2020, 03:17:PM »
Part 4 says June crawled across the bedroom to get to the bedroom phone. Makes sense.

It shows Bamber being quite dismissive of Julie. Unaware that the police were investigating.

It seems that Jeremy disabled the phones upon entrance.

June crawled across the floor to reach the phone, but found a disabled line.

Jeremy wiped any blood from June off the phone, then plugged it in downstairs.
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« Reply #1885 on: January 30, 2020, 03:23:PM »
66.

There were normally four telephones at White House Farm (although there was only one telephone line).

A cream old-fashioned finger-dial telephone kept in the main bedroom (the bedroom telephone), a blue digital telephone in the first floor office (the office telephone), a cream cordless telephone kept in the kitchen but used around and outside the house (the cordless telephone) and a fawn digital telephone also kept in the kitchen (the kitchen telephone).

The only telephone with a memory recall feature was the cordless telephone but this had been faulty and was collected for repair on the morning of 5 August 1985.


67.

The telephone that had been found with the receiver off its cradle in the kitchen was in fact the bedroom telephone, which had been moved downstairs. The kitchen telephone had been hidden amongst a pile of magazines in the kitchen. The office telephone was in its normal place.

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Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #1886 on: January 30, 2020, 03:27:PM »
66.

There were normally four telephones at White House Farm (although there was only one telephone line).

A cream old-fashioned finger-dial telephone kept in the main bedroom (the bedroom telephone), a blue digital telephone in the first floor office (the office telephone), a cream cordless telephone kept in the kitchen but used around and outside the house (the cordless telephone) and a fawn digital telephone also kept in the kitchen (the kitchen telephone).

The only telephone with a memory recall feature was the cordless telephone but this had been faulty and was collected for repair on the morning of 5 August 1985.


67.

The telephone that had been found with the receiver off its cradle in the kitchen was in fact the bedroom telephone, which had been moved downstairs. The kitchen telephone had been hidden amongst a pile of magazines in the kitchen. The office telephone was in its normal place.
yes adam good points

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Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #1887 on: January 30, 2020, 03:29:PM »
66.

There were normally four telephones at White House Farm (although there was only one telephone line).

A cream old-fashioned finger-dial telephone kept in the main bedroom (the bedroom telephone), a blue digital telephone in the first floor office (the office telephone), a cream cordless telephone kept in the kitchen but used around and outside the house (the cordless telephone) and a fawn digital telephone also kept in the kitchen (the kitchen telephone).

The only telephone with a memory recall feature was the cordless telephone but this had been faulty and was collected for repair on the morning of 5 August 1985.


67.

The telephone that had been found with the receiver off its cradle in the kitchen was in fact the bedroom telephone, which had been moved downstairs. The kitchen telephone had been hidden amongst a pile of magazines in the kitchen. The office telephone was in its normal place.

The telephone that had been found with the receiver off its cradle was seen in Kitchen days before the murders. By Douglas Pike. See his witness statement.

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« Reply #1888 on: January 30, 2020, 03:30:PM »
Obviously if the memory redial was available, he could have called his cottage & waited for his answering machine to answer. He could then claim that was Nevill's call.

Wonder if he knew that this phone had been taken for repair just two days before. If he did, he still had to go ahead due to time constraints.
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« Reply #1889 on: January 30, 2020, 03:32:PM »
The telephone that had been found with the receiver off its cradle was seen in Kitchen days before the murders. By Douglas Pike. See his witness statement.

Obviously it had been put back.

The kitchen & office phones were in working order & June would not crawl to Nevill's side of the bed for no reason.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.