Author Topic: The ITV Drama  (Read 234817 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline lookout

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 48676
Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #1770 on: January 22, 2020, 08:40:PM »
I'd have been wary of the woman. Wasn't she visiting her GP regularly over a period of time right up to the murders ? And of course the only one covered in blood from head to toe----which I've never been comfortable with.

Offline lookout

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 48676
Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #1771 on: January 22, 2020, 08:42:PM »
I can fully understand " Taff " when he said murder/suicide. They all killed each other.

Offline Steve_uk

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 21102
Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #1772 on: January 22, 2020, 08:43:PM »
I don't refuse to believe it. Demeanor at one point in time does not equate to that demeanour all the time. Ever heard of mood swings?
Not when you're exhausted, probably wishing to remain in bed that day and not traipse around following June's cronies or having to care for the twins full-time when you're just not up to it.

Offline Kaldin

  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6961
Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #1773 on: January 22, 2020, 08:45:PM »
Chapter 19: The Murders At White House Farm
 
Painting the exterior walls at Vaulty that afternoon, Michael Horsnell noticed that all wasn't well. At quarter past three he recognized June's silver Renault as it turned into the drive. He watched June, Sheila and the twins head into the garden: "Mrs Bamber was playing with the two boys, jumping over small hedges and running up and down the garden. Sheila was with them, but she was like a zombie. She walked very rigidly and the only part of her that moved was from the knees down. She didn't even turn her head from left to right. I did not hear Sheila speak at all. They went into the house.". June sought him out a short while later to discuss repairs: "I got the definite impression that she was upset about something. She was in a different mood from when she had been playing with the children. It was not anything she said, but just the way she looked and was speaking." When they left the house, "Sheila definitely did not look normal" and was again "walking stiffly, like a zombie from a horror movie."

Thank you. There is nothing on here from him. The only Michael Horsnell I can find was a journalist who wrote about Jeremy Bamber sometimes.

Offline notsure

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1684
Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #1774 on: January 22, 2020, 08:45:PM »
He never said anything of the kind.

umm he did on the video the ct put out recently recanting his statement which was not read in court

Offline Steve_uk

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 21102
Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #1775 on: January 22, 2020, 08:45:PM »
He did say something like that.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159.0;attach=18938;image
She was combing her hair and pummelling the wall, not a person.

Offline Steve_uk

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 21102
Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #1776 on: January 22, 2020, 08:47:PM »
umm he did on the video the ct put out recently recanting his statement which was not read in court
Why was she combing her hair? These people in psychosis are completely self-absorbed, they have no clue as to what they are doing and have no memory of the event once stabilized with medication.

Offline notsure

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1684
Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #1777 on: January 22, 2020, 08:48:PM »
who said anything about her pummelling a person

Offline Kaldin

  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6961
Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #1778 on: January 22, 2020, 08:49:PM »
She was combing her hair and pummelling the wall, not a person.

So what? Notsure didn't say she was pummelling a person.

Offline notsure

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1684
Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #1779 on: January 22, 2020, 08:49:PM »
Why was she combing her hair? These people in psychosis are completely self-absorbed, they have no clue as to what they are doing and have no memory of the event once stabilized with medication.
[/quote

exactly! she was calmly combing her hair one minute and in a rage the next. didn’t remember previous breakdowns like this. poor thing

Offline Steve_uk

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 21102
Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #1780 on: January 22, 2020, 08:51:PM »
who said anything about her pummelling a person
Well violence was mentioned. It's the connotation the Jeremy supporters love to invoke.

Offline David1819

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13784
Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #1781 on: January 22, 2020, 08:51:PM »
Not when you're exhausted, probably wishing to remain in bed that day and not traipse around following June's cronies or having to care for the twins full-time when you're just not up to it.

She was seen skipping down Pages Lane with twins that very same day she was seen with this "precarious demeanor".

So now who is the one who is going to "refuse to believe"?

« Last Edit: January 22, 2020, 08:51:PM by David1819 »

Offline notsure

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1684
Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #1782 on: January 22, 2020, 08:52:PM »
Well violence was mentioned. It's the connotation the Jeremy supporters love to invoke.

actually steve i don’t love to say that, i feel very sad for shiela and the whole family. it was a tragedy waiting to happen

Offline Steve_uk

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 21102
Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #1783 on: January 22, 2020, 08:53:PM »
She was seen skipping down Pages Lane with twins that very same day she was seen with this "precarious demeanor".

So now who is the one who is going to "refuse to believe"?
Maybe it was some bravado in front of the twins. The house painter incident was that afternoon. We also have Pamela's account of Sheila's demeanour at 10pm that night.

Offline Steve_uk

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 21102
Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #1784 on: January 22, 2020, 08:55:PM »
actually steve i don’t love to say that, i feel very sad for shiela and the whole family. it was a tragedy waiting to happen
It was a tragedy waiting to happen because Jeremy caused it to happen: a concatenation of incredibly sad, chance events which led to the whole diabolical affair.