The ITV Drama

[notsure]

Just been reading some old posts from Colin's book in which he wrote that June caused all the rifts in the household and was jealous if Nevill showed affection to his daughter. Even if the three of them went out, june would cause trouble and one day Sheila had said to Colin " why doesn't he leave her ?" So things weren't a bed of roses at WHF either were they ?

I think they all found june to be very difficult with her religion. didn't shiela say to Freddie that she hated her etc. it must have been very difficult for all of them to accept the way june was. it wasn't normal was it.

[Steve_uk]

I think they all found june to be very difficult with her religion. didn't shiela say to Freddie that she hated her etc. it must have been very difficult for all of them to accept the way june was. it wasn't normal was it.

I don't think she ever went that far: their relationship was more complex. She did inscribe "I hate this place" into the wardrobe of her bedroom at White House Farm, but she was in my opinion always holding out for the demonstrable love she was never given, hence no showdown.

[lookout]

Remember June had been ill and hospitalized twice. Was she trying to keep up appearances at all times and was this the reason she adopted in the first place and which contributed in part to her ubiquitous nervous disposition?  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/business-51141219/mental-health-how-to-spot-if-you-are-suffering-burnout

She also felt threatened didn't she ?

[Jan]

I think in those days there was no internet and no drama queens - and people liked to keep their business to themselves .

Not sure if that's a good or a bad thing .

but there were obviously family stresses .

[Steve_uk]

She also felt threatened didn't she ?

I don't know lookout. Who was June frightened of?

[Kaldin]

I don't know lookout. Who was June frightened of?

Religion can be a comfort, but it can also make people afraid.

[lookout]

I think they all found june to be very difficult with her religion. didn't shiela say to Freddie that she hated her etc. it must have been very difficult for all of them to accept the way june was. it wasn't normal was it.

It wasn't a normal way to be. In fact it was a damned horrible way for the others to have to have put up with it. Imagine being jealous of your daughter ? Imagine making little 6 year olds pray all the time ?
It's no wonder there was ructions that night----everything must have come to a head.

[lookout]

I think they all found june to be very difficult with her religion. didn't shiela say to Freddie that she hated her etc. it must have been very difficult for all of them to accept the way june was. it wasn't normal was it.

I actually think it was between the 3 adults that night, taking everything into consideration.

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[maggie]

It wasn't a normal way to be. In fact it was a damned horrible way for the others to have to have put up with it. Imagine being jealous of your daughter ? Imagine making little 6 year olds pray all the time ?
It's no wonder there was ructions that night----everything must have come to a head.

I agree Lookout, Sheila certainly did hate her mother, Colin was quite clear on that and why should she have not hated her.  The adopted child always told she wasn’t good enough, a disappointment, not one of them, the devil’s child.  Mind you I’m sure Jeremy got similar treatment as well.  Adopted children need unconditional love and protection to build feelings of safety and self esteem, sadly neither parent had a clue.

[Kaldin]

I agree Lookout, Sheila certainly did hate her mother, Colin was quite clear on that and why she have not hated her.  The adopted child always told she wasn’t good enough, a disappointment, not one of the, the devil’s child.  Mind you I’m sure Jeremy got his moneys worth as well.  Adopted children need unconditional love and protection, sadly neither patent had a clue.

I don't get why Sheila was over there so often if she hated it.

[lookout]

I don't know lookout. Who was June frightened of?

Well reading Collin's book he stated that June was jealous of Sheila and disapproved of any affection shown from Nevill towards his daughter. She controlled the household and caused rifts most of the time. Junes insistence that the twins say prayers at every opportunity to which the children hadn't liked.
She sounded awful ! Sheila had asked Colin why her father didn't leave her. Happy families, eh ? My guess is that the 3 of them kicked off that night.

[Steve_uk]

I don't get why Sheila was over there so often if she hated it.

She wasn't. She lived in London from the age of 16 and visited occasionally. She turned down June's offer of running an antiques shop in the locality.

[notsure]

I don't think she ever went that far: their relationship was more complex. She did inscribe "I hate this place" into the wardrobe of her bedroom at White House Farm, but she was in my opinion always holding out for the demonstrable love she was never given, hence no showdown.

well on the video recounting freddie’s statement he says she did say that. as far as i can see instead of june being the type of parent that could help her children she had too many troubles herself. if you think about it she really shouldn’t have adopted at all. it is all extremely sad,  whichever way you look at it

[Kaldin]

I did reply and now you're arguing with me ME! 

I didn't slate you for slating Jackie though. You started arguing with me! 

Let us move on.