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[Steve_uk]

They have nothing to do with it. It's an unpredictable disease.

They saw her demeanour only hours before the tragedy, as did Jeremy.

[Jan]

thanks rj,also most hear voices while going for these episodes,so she hears devils voice behind her a proper mentally ill person would automatically turn round and shoot.but theres no stray shots

The shots were apparently mostly at close range so quite hard to miss .

[Caroline]

They have nothing to do with it. It's an unpredictable disease.

Not as unpredictable while taking medication.

[Steve_uk]

thanks rj,also most hear voices while going for these episodes,so she hears devils voice behind her a proper mentally ill person would automatically turn round and shoot.but theres no stray shots

Absolutely sami.

[Kaldin]

Whether you agree with it or not, she was medicated and still had a moderate dose in her system despite the next injection being due.

Yes, but that doesn't mean that the drug was effective enough to prevent an episode.

[Kaldin]

They saw her demeanour only hours before the tragedy, as did Jeremy.

I told you - there are warning signs, but that doesn't mean that demeanour won't change.

[Caroline]

Yes, but that doesn't mean that the drug was effective enough to prevent an episode.

But is was effective, in fact too effective which is why her psychiatrist said she was over medicated and her dose reduced.

[Caroline]

I told you - there are warning signs, but that doesn't mean that demeanour won't change.

What's your experience to claim this?

[Kaldin]

Not as unpredictable while taking medication.

But still unpredictable. We just discussed how patients can relapse even though they're on medication.

[Kaldin]

What's your experience to claim this?

Do you know what a warning sign is?

[Jan]

I think we can all admit on BOTH sides there are possibilities that should not be dismissed,

That’s the whole point .

Just because we discuss the possibilities it does not mean they did or did not happen which is why forensics and evidence at the scene is so important and assumptions are not .

[Caroline]

But still unpredictable. We just discussed how patients can relapse even though they're on medication.

Did you also note that the main reasons was not taking medication? Plus, if it's that common, there must be thousands of similar stories where a schizophrenic has killed due to psychosis while on medication?

[Steve_uk]

I told you - there are warning signs, but that doesn't mean that demeanour won't change.

But she had retired to bed. She was asleep. She was woken by Jeremy and marched a few feet to her death like a lamb to the slaughter. This explains how peaceful she looks in the photographs.

[Jan]

But is was effective, in fact too effective which is why her psychiatrist said she was over medicated and her dose reduced.

Perhaps he reduced it too much too quickly .

Also it was her own doctor who said she could have had a relapse . And did he not warn her about the risks of taking recreational drugs?

[Steve_uk]

Perhaps he reduced it too much too quickly .

Also it was her own doctor who said she could have had a relapse . And did he not warn her about the risks of taking recreational drugs?

He said they would not have had an adverse effect.