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[Jan]

Yes did not take long . Not taking medication is the main cause . Not the only cause




Take your medicines as your doctor suggests. Not taking medicine is the main cause of relapse.
Reduce stress in your life. This may result in fewer relapses. For more information on reducing stress, see the topic Stress Management.
Don't drink alcohol or use illegal drugs.
Go to your counselling sessions and classes even when you don't feel like it or when you think they are not helping you.
If your doctor recommends family therapy, be sure to have all family members attend each session.
Join a self-help or support group. Self-help and support groups are usually run by the members of the group, not health professionals.
Learn the first signs of relapse, and seek help early. Common signs of relapse include:
Staying away from or not being interested in other people.
Forgetting things.
Having problems concentrating.
Daydreaming.
Not paying attention to what is going on.

[Jan]

Interesting.............


Not taking medication regularly or as prescribed is by far the most common cause of schizophrenia relapse. Persistent use of drugs or alcohol and criticism from caregivers are next on the list. "Many people with schizophrenia abuse some type of drug, most commonly marijuana," Frangou says.

Stress is particularly problematic. "Stress may contribute to schizophrenia relapse, but symptoms of relapse can also increase stress," she says.

[notsure]

yes it’s interesting jan. it’s just not as cut and dried as saying she was medicated so she couldn’t have had a relapse. i think it was perfectly possible .

[Kaldin]

People with schizophrenia can relapse despite taking medication, and despite having been stable for a while. Sheila had cut her dose, and while the dose in her body was said to be "therapeutic", that doesn't necessarily mean it was working 100% for her.

[Jan]

This part of a very interesting article .
If Sheila had been involved in other drugs , even if not on the day the risk was increased . ...........

If you have schizophrenia then using street drugs will increase your risk of dangerous behaviour fifteen fold
If you have schizophrenia then using street drugs will increase your risk of dangerous behaviour fifteen fold (Image: Axente Vlad/Shutterstock)
However, one key aspect of this condition that the modern research does tend to agree on is what most health workers know to be true, that co-morbidity with substance abuse is a clear predictor to violent behaviour. When a person with schizophrenia abuses alcohol or street drugs their risk of engaging in dangerous behaviour increases fifteen fold.5

Whilst suicide is by far the larger component of the total mortality figure for schizophrenia, the other part is the very much smaller but equally as tragic figure for homicide. Each year in the UK about 30 murders are committed by people living with schizophrenia. However, it is important to note that the number of attacks carried out by people with schizophrenia is a small part of the total of about 600 murders in the UK each year. In terms of the total number of homicides there are other risk factors at work which are much more influential. The risk factors for murder in the general population are being young, being male and being drunk.

[sami]

yes during her relapse and while in psychotic fit she managed to hit the the target 25 times

[Kaldin]

There are some warning signs of a relapse. These can include lack of energy and a lack of interest.

[susan]

Hi sami that is staggering

[susan]

Hi Kaldin I seem to recall after what I have read that Sheila was like that when she arrived at the farm with the twins.

[Jan]

yes during her relapse and while in psychotic fit she managed to hit the the target 25 times

Freddi said when she had her previous episode she was not recognising people she was hallucinating. So perhaps she thought she was shooting the devil or the people she thought were bugging her phone ? Remember the letter to Anne ?

It did not mean she could not aim at something ?


Why do people have to reply with such sarcasm. It’s supposed to be a discussion forum .

I am just saying that just people post a statement as fact it does not mean it can’t be challenged.

[Steve_uk]

The guilters do not deny the many facets to this case, one of them being the parlous state of Sheila that final week and indeed years before. However she still was medicated at the time of the tragedy, albeit at a very low dose, and Doctor Ferguson stated he didn't think the recreational drugs she used would have had any affect in negating the prescription medication.

How the Jeremy supporters reconcile a drowsy, pathetic creature accomplishing what she theoretically must have done that morning beats me.

[Steve_uk]

Freddi said when she had her previous episode she was not recognising people she was hallucinating. So perhaps she thought she was shooting the devil or the people she thought were bugging her phone ? Remember the letter to Anne ?

It did not mean she could not aim at something ?


Why do people have to reply with such sarcasm. It’s supposed to be a discussion forum .

I am just saying that just people post a statement as fact it does not mean it can’t be challenged.

But in this case you're just not capable of what has been ascribed to her. Statistically you're far more a danger to yourself.

[Kaldin]

Hi Kaldin I seem to recall after what I have read that Sheila was like that when she arrived at the farm with the twins.

Yes she was. It was put down to her being "overmedicated" but it could have been a warning sign that she was going to relapse.

[susan]

Hi Jan I am having difficulty finding words but somebody in a rage could fire shots seemingly at random and hit the targets hope you can understand what I am trying to say

[sami]

Freddi said when she had her previous episode she was not recognising people she was hallucinating. So perhaps she thought she was shooting the devil or the people she thought were bugging her phone ? Remember the letter to Anne ?

It did not mean she could not aim at something ?


Why do people have to reply with such sarcasm. It’s supposed to be a discussion forum .

I am just saying that just people post a statement as fact it does not mean it can’t be challenged.

sorry jan it wasnt meant to be sarcastic.but i find it hard that someone who as you say was hallucinating could only fire at real targets and not let some shots off at random ie mirror ,pictures,the clock many other things around the home