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[sami]

Cheque book fraud, burglary, importation of drugs, supply of drugs all in totality would certainly have barred her from teaching.

was she convicted of the crimes above

[ngb1066]

  It has been previously discussed, Sami. The canard about not suing is a red herring. Apart from anything else it would be difficult to argue that this story damages JB's reputation and standing given that he is convicted murderer. It just being false is not sufficient on it's own to win a libel action.

Absolutely correct gringo.

[lookout]

Nothing between their ears.
 I can't help being " old school " .

[ngb1066]

Yes, noted.  I recently queried whether this was behind the 'source' in 'Deviant', for the alleged confession from Jeremy that he was his sister's accomplice.  I also suggested that if prison authorities had passed this info on to relatives either directly or via EP, this would only serve to cement their assuredness that Jeremy was guilty full stop.

I do not believe there was any "source" for the theory advanced in Deviant.

[sami]

There is no way JB or his "camp" could sue for libel, even in the face of total lies.  This spurious suggestion has been dealt with before.

why not.if its not not true than its slander of character is it not ,many people have had payouts by the tabloids for writing things that were not true

[ngb1066]

i see thank you gringo,would it not be slander of jb,s character

Yes but in law JB has no character to protect.

[ngb1066]

ngb while your here could you tell when pace was bought in.thanks

The Act itself was passed in 1984 but the codes were only implemented by Statutory Instrument a while later.  The interviews in the Bamber case took place before the implementation.

 

[sami]

The Act itself was passed in 1984 but the codes were only implemented by Statutory Instrument a while later.  The interviews in the Bamber case took place before the implementation.

thank you ngb

[ngb1066]

why not.if its not not true than its slander of character is it not ,many people have had payouts by the tabloids for writing things that were not true

Yes, but not people convicted of murder (unless subsequently acquitted on appeal).  If JB is eventually successful in overturning his convictions he would be in a position to sue for libel.

[ngb1066]

was she convicted of the crimes above

No because she was given immunity in return for agreeing to give evidence for the prosecution, which of course the jury were not aware of.

 

[sami]

Yes, but not people convicted of murder (unless subsequently acquitted on appeal).  If JB is eventually successful in overturning his convictions he would be in a position to sue for libel.

now i see, thanks ngb

[Caroline]

Oh dear so much for you pronouncing something as fact
Wrong again

It is a fact, whether you lot except it or not, makes no odds.

[gringo]

It is a fact, whether you lot except it or not, makes no odds.

   You are free to believe Fielder but you could not successfully argue that he is honest, reliable or even remotely credible as a witness to anything. He lied and fabricated for a living. It is who he was. A lying, corrupt hack lying and smearing for a lying corrupt rag. Having to consider Fielder a truthful witness to support an argument merely demonstrates the weakness of the allegation.

[gringo]

Very good post gringo.

   Thanks NGB. I am amazed that this story is still believed by anyone. The whole premise is absurd and unbelievable in the first place. The only witness is so discredited that his evidence can be dismissed out of hand. How does it even gain traction?

[lookout]

   You are free to believe Fielder but you could not successfully argue that he is honest, reliable or even remotely credible as a witness to anything. He lied and fabricated for a living. It is who he was. A lying, corrupt hack lying and smearing for a lying corrupt rag. Having to consider Fielder a truthful witness to support an argument merely demonstrates the weakness of the allegation.

What about the post-trial party with that other individual Kelvin McKenzie ( the S*n ) who'd allegedly said, about JB " that little shit didn't do it " but nevertheless joined in with the knees-up ? Anyone remember this ? Editors, police ? Cahoots ?