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Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #960 on: January 09, 2020, 11:51:AM »
Good post Roch and agree with you, I think it just goes along with what we know, not what we don’t?  Posters have wanted a six part series now they’ve got one, Jackie wanted one just on Julie, I would have watched this as well or anything that can or show him innocent.
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Yes fair comment, I can see where you're coming from there.

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« Reply #961 on: January 09, 2020, 11:58:AM »
Not overly impressed so far.

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« Reply #962 on: January 09, 2020, 12:01:PM »
I am a retred Police officer and after leaving the Met Police, I spent 10 years on Essex Police M.I.T. I have always believed that Jeremy is innocent and have had many heated discussions with Essex Police officers who point blank refuse to listen to reason. This is one of the U.K.'s worst cases of injustice and Essex Police should be made to cooperate fully.
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This is the retired officer I tried to get in touch with yesterday to ask how he arrived at his conclusion of innocent. He'd served with the murder squad at EP latterly before his retirement. A good-living man with many on-going interests.

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« Reply #963 on: January 09, 2020, 12:40:PM »
I don’t know Roch, the opening episode left viewers with some doubt, I must admit sometimes it is hard watching and you know the outcome, but it’s still interesting and I’ve had very good feed back from neutrals.

 Personnally I think they were sewing the seeds of whats to come - the sobbing reported by the police came across as hysterical overacting

the muting of what Colin said at the door

The looks by Julie at Jeremy actually looked a bit like they were in on it together if you know what I mean- not that she was shocked he had done it .

the subtle trick of the light at the window quote .

And pointing out about Jeremy having dyed his hair like a film star

Subtle but indications of what to come I think .

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« Reply #964 on: January 09, 2020, 12:44:PM »
Personnally I think they were sewing the seeds of whats to come - the sobbing reported by the police came across as hysterical overacting

the muting of what Colin said at the door

The looks by Julie at Jeremy actually looked a bit like they were in on it together if you know what I mean- not that she was shocked he had done it .

the subtle trick of the light at the window quote .

And pointing out about Jeremy having dyed his hair like a film star

Subtle but indications of what to come I think .
Have to agree, they take you one direction and have an art in leading you in another, they always use drama to good affect. 

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Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #965 on: January 09, 2020, 12:48:PM »
Perhaps someone can answer these questions for me ?

Is there a time line on here about the time between the police arriving - the raid team being called and them going in to the house ?

I was interested in the comment Jeremy was alleged to have said about target shooting ( does not relate to his statements)  but it seems the first statements from the officers who met  him see to be from 16th august ( although not signed ) . Because it was thought to be at the beginning murder suicide surely those officers would do statements immediately on 8th August  ? And why did they say notes not made of conversations -statements done from memory ? That means they could say what they wanted really ? I just find it all a bit odd .

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« Reply #966 on: January 09, 2020, 12:50:PM »
I'm wondering if " Taff " Jones really did shout like his character did ? We'll never know will we, but it wasn't altogether professional and would naturally have caused a lot of unrest among the rest of the officers ?. It's not the way to be when leading a team. I'd have expected more reverence during that time.

When someone loses their temper and appears to belittle you because of their higher position it's never a good move and can/does create hostilities which in this case is exactly what happened.

From all accounts, yes, he was bad tempered.
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« Reply #967 on: January 09, 2020, 12:57:PM »
I am a retred Police officer and after leaving the Met Police, I spent 10 years on Essex Police M.I.T. I have always believed that Jeremy is innocent and have had many heated discussions with Essex Police officers who point blank refuse to listen to reason. This is one of the U.K.'s worst cases of injustice and Essex Police should be made to cooperate fully.
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My friend's husband, a retired police officer who spent his entire working life with EP. and was one of those present, said from the off, that he was guilty. One cancels out the other.

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« Reply #968 on: January 09, 2020, 01:16:PM »

My friend's husband, a retired police officer who spent his entire working life with EP. and was one of those present, said from the off, that he was guilty. One cancels out the other.

He doesn't say he worked on the case or what his opinion is based on.
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« Reply #969 on: January 09, 2020, 01:24:PM »
He doesn't say he worked on the case or what his opinion is based on.

He probably hasn't been asked. Tbf, neither does Jane's friend's husband.  But 10 years in M.I.T. within the same force that prosecuted Bamber.. does make you wonder.

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« Reply #970 on: January 09, 2020, 01:26:PM »
He doesn't say he worked on the case or what his opinion is based on.


He spoke with Jeremy, Caroline. His opinion/conclusion was based on body language, eye contact, the way questions were answered, and years of experience of being lied to.

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Re: The ITV Drama
« Reply #971 on: January 09, 2020, 01:37:PM »
He probably hasn't been asked. Tbf, neither does Jane's friend's husband.  But 10 years in M.I.T. within the same force that prosecuted Bamber.. does make you wonder.

It says a lot that he gave his name
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #972 on: January 09, 2020, 01:42:PM »
Personnally I think they were sewing the seeds of whats to come - the sobbing reported by the police came across as hysterical overacting

the muting of what Colin said at the door

The looks by Julie at Jeremy actually looked a bit like they were in on it together if you know what I mean- not that she was shocked he had done it .

the subtle trick of the light at the window quote .

And pointing out about Jeremy having dyed his hair like a film star

Subtle but indications of what to come I think .


I was waiting to see that part and it never happened even though it’s so relevant to the case
I hope we will hear about Sheila’s medical records referring to her conversations with her psychiatrist where she informs him she was afraid she would kill her children.  Or will that be left out
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #973 on: January 09, 2020, 02:30:PM »
Personnally I think they were sewing the seeds of whats to come - the sobbing reported by the police came across as hysterical overacting

the muting of what Colin said at the door

The looks by Julie at Jeremy actually looked a bit like they were in on it together if you know what I mean- not that she was shocked he had done it .

the subtle trick of the light at the window quote .

And pointing out about Jeremy having dyed his hair like a film star

Subtle but indications of what to come I think .

I heard what he said, he said (when told Sheila was dead) "She's finally done it" - then he was told about the twins and staggered backwards.
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« Reply #974 on: January 09, 2020, 02:35:PM »
I heard what he said, he said (when told Sheila was dead) "She's finally done it" - then he was told about the twins and staggered backwards.
Yes I heard that Caroline