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Offline sami

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« Reply #615 on: January 04, 2020, 08:34:AM »
They were also told sheilas blood was on the silencer and that is by no means a 100% fact .
iam sure the defence mentioned that at trial,but iam also sure the jury members didnt find him guilty on that fact alone
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« Reply #616 on: January 04, 2020, 07:02:PM »
iam sure the defence mentioned that at trial,but iam also sure the jury members didnt find him guilty on that fact alone

I agree Sami.
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« Reply #617 on: January 04, 2020, 07:06:PM »
Nobody knows why the jury found him guilty (apart from two of them). This isn't the US where juries talk to the press afterwards.

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« Reply #618 on: January 04, 2020, 07:11:PM »
You'd have thought that for a mass murder the result would have been unanimous beyond reasonable doubt ? But it wasn't as 2 people didn't believe him guilty.

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« Reply #619 on: January 04, 2020, 07:25:PM »
You'd have thought that for a mass murder the result would have been unanimous beyond reasonable doubt ? But it wasn't as 2 people didn't believe him guilty.


I guess it's something for supporters to cling to.

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« Reply #620 on: January 04, 2020, 07:27:PM »

I guess it's something for supporters to cling to.





Not only supporters but those guilters who've got a modicum of understanding of the case.

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« Reply #621 on: January 04, 2020, 07:27:PM »
Nobody knows why the jury found him guilty (apart from two of them). This isn't the US where juries talk to the press afterwards.

This is a passage from CALs book.

"One former member of the investigation team who does not wish to be named asked the jury foreman afterwards if there had been a deciding factor. He was told: ‘It was all down to the judge’s summing up. He directed us to find Jeremy guilty and that’s why we did, in the end. If it hadn’t been for the judge telling us what we should do, he would have walked free.’"


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« Reply #622 on: January 04, 2020, 07:30:PM »
Like sheep being led to the slaughter  ::)

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« Reply #623 on: January 04, 2020, 07:38:PM »
Like sheep being led to the slaughter  ::)


I totally agree, Lookout. If you or I had been on that jury, for differing reasons, we'd still be sitting there. Despite what judges say, some jurors have minds of their own.

Re Jeremy as "lamb to the slaughter", I rather think it was he who did the leading. He's more than partly responsible for where he is now. A bit more sorrow and humility -had he felt any- may have seen him a free man.

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« Reply #624 on: January 04, 2020, 08:11:PM »
I suppose" head held high and stick your neck out " when telling the truth didn't cut it for the local yokels as they must have read his message wrong. ???

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« Reply #625 on: January 04, 2020, 08:17:PM »
I suppose" head held high and stick your neck out " when telling the truth didn't cut it for the local yokels as they must have read his message wrong. ???


Isn't it a little judgemental to refer to all jury members as being "local yokels". It would certainly have put my back up but I don't like rudeness. From how it sounds -and no, I wasn't there- he sneered.

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« Reply #626 on: January 04, 2020, 08:23:PM »
This is a passage from CALs book.

"One former member of the investigation team who does not wish to be named asked the jury foreman afterwards if there had been a deciding factor. He was told: ‘It was all down to the judge’s summing up. He directed us to find Jeremy guilty and that’s why we did, in the end. If it hadn’t been for the judge telling us what we should do, he would have walked free.’"
to quote drake," on the evidence of the silencer alone you may find Bamber guilty"
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« Reply #627 on: January 04, 2020, 08:24:PM »

Isn't it a little judgemental to refer to all jury members as being "local yokels". It would certainly have put my back up but I don't like rudeness. From how it sounds -and no, I wasn't there- he sneered.
he was arragont. It has cost him 35 years of his life almost
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« Reply #628 on: January 04, 2020, 08:39:PM »
And with that as he was led to the cells his arrogance and stiff upper-lip gave way to a complete breakdown in floods of tears as he sat holding his head in disbelief.

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« Reply #629 on: January 04, 2020, 08:45:PM »
to quote drake," on the evidence of the silencer alone you may find Bamber guilty"

And we all know about the reliability of the silencer evidence
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000