The ITV Drama

[maggie]

I think mainly greed.

Im not sure, these relationships are complicated.

[Caroline]

Im not sure, these relationships are complicated.

Most are Maggie - in the grand scheme. 

[sami]

I would not worry about it too much .


I have learnt to understand that people who think Jeremys conviction is correct emphasise all his bad points and people who think he is innocent have to do the same to those that they think are responsible .

It took me a long time to learn not to believe "opinions" and try and stick to the documents.

however those documents keep throwing up lots of questions . Otherwise we would all still not be here.


For example Anne has been called Miss Marple for making all her notes and being suspicious . In retrospect I would also be that person . I saw a robbery happening once and I immediately made notes of everything I saw . Just for reference and because  I was angry .

but I would love to know where her notes are about finding the silencer .

jan there was some talk of a sd card the original notes maybe long gone

[lookout]

They were running scared that an " outsider " was going to take over what they had down as theirs----horrible.

[guest7363]

They were running scared that an " outsider " was going to take over what they had down as theirs----horrible.

I have to agree Lookout, but I do believe they were convinced that Sheila wasn’t to blame, I would think any family involved in any tragedy like this,   would see things different with what  they found unbelievable circumstances as the story unfolded.

[sami]

They were running scared that an " outsider " was going to take over what they had down as theirs----horrible.

she may have said that she had a loving relationship with jb in the past before the murders

[guest7363]

They were running scared that an " outsider " was going to take over what they had down as theirs----horrible.

I don’t think they were seeing pound signs at first Lookout, think how anyone would react if they were told the same story?

[sami]

I don’t think they were seeing pound signs at first Lookout, think how anyone would react if they were told the same story?

quite true rj,one cant blame the family specially not poor ann

[lookout]

I have to agree Lookout, but I do believe they were convinced that Sheila wasn’t to blame, I would think any family involved in any tragedy like this,   would see things different with what  they found unbelievable circumstances as the story unfolded.

I'm more than aware that most would have pointed a finger at Jeremy in favour of his sister but those involved in the investigation were very wrong in pre-judging that " it must have been Jeremy " and come the trial which was so one-sided that Jeremy never stood a chance even his defence let him down when Rivlin could have done far more for him. The whole thing disgusts me from start to finish.

There's more than one way to skin a cat, in other words the whole family should have been interrogated, they'd have soon got to the truth of why they wanted Jeremy locked up for life.

[sami]

I'm more than aware that most would have pointed a finger at Jeremy in favour of his sister but those involved in the investigation were very wrong in pre-judging that " it must have been Jeremy " and come the trial which was so one-sided that Jeremy never stood a chance even his defence let him down when Rivlin could have done far more for him. The whole thing disgusts me from start to finish.

There's more than one way to skin a cat, in other words the whole family should have been interrogated, they'd have soon got to the truth of why they wanted Jeremy locked up for life.

thats a bit harsh lookout,plus the pre judging you mention was started by taff

[guest7363]

I'm more than aware that most would have pointed a finger at Jeremy in favour of his sister but those involved in the investigation were very wrong in pre-judging that " it must have been Jeremy " and come the trial which was so one-sided that Jeremy never stood a chance even his defence let him down when Rivlin could have done far more for him. The whole thing disgusts me from start to finish.

There's more than one way to skin a cat, in other words the whole family should have been interrogated, they'd have soon got to the truth of why they wanted Jeremy locked up for life.

The official police line was four murders and a suicide Lookout, the only mistake in pre judging was the wrong suspect.

[lookout]

thats a bit harsh lookout,plus the pre judging you mention was started by taff

No, " Taff " had known as soon as he entered the farmhouse that it was a murder/suicide he'd faced. There was no pre-judging there. It was straightforward. It was Stan Jones who did the pre-judging.

I'm learning quite a bit at the moment as I'm in contact with an investigative criminologist.

[Caroline]

thats a bit harsh lookout,plus the pre judging you mention was started by taff

Against Sheila.

[Caroline]

No, " Taff " had known as soon as he entered the farmhouse that it was a murder/suicide he'd faced. There was no pre-judging there. It was straightforward. It was Stan Jones who did the pre-judging.

I'm learning quite a bit at the moment as I'm in contact with an investigative criminologist.

He had a cursory glance around and took Bambers word for what happened - he prejudged without investigating.

[sami]

No, " Taff " had known as soon as he entered the farmhouse that it was a murder/suicide he'd faced. There was no pre-judging there. It was straightforward. It was Stan Jones who did the pre-judging.

I'm learning quite a bit at the moment as I'm in contact with an investigative criminologist.

yes but 10 members of a jury thought taff was wrong,who are we to judge law abiding members of a jury with good character