The ITV Drama

[guest7363]

It’s a fact, things changed when the bambers were not around anymore

But like RJ said the people who make lots of money out of caravan parks don’t have much integrity

A friend of Anne’s are you? Have you got a nursing background?

I don’t think the Bambers would have differed one bit Jackie, as I said before they all sang from the same hymn sheet, they all seemed to fall in line and copied each other, odd one or two maybe, but they still had their own cut throat way.

It’s a win win for them, they make on a sale, they make more on a return.  10% to 15% I would say pack in each year, this is a big earner for them, rents go up every year regardless.

[lookout]

Well that's gone down like a lead balloon hasn't it ? 
 

[guest7363]

Well that's gone down like a lead balloon hasn't it ? 
 

Im being honest Lookout, I worked in the area, I knew how it worked I wouldn’t lie to you my friend 👍

[lookout]

Im being honest Lookout, I worked in the area, I knew how it worked I wouldn’t lie to you my friend 👍

It's not you RJ .

[guest7363]

It's not you RJ .

Oh sorry Lookout, I’m getting posts confused I did one with Jan earlier 🙈🙈🙈

[guest7363]

Well that's gone down like a lead balloon hasn't it ? 
 

Well I don’t see what’s changed really, everyone thought I were part of the family 😂😂😂

[lookout]

Well I don’t see what’s changed really, everyone thought I were part of the family 😂😂😂

You never said you were though.

[maggie]

I try to understand the hurt caused to some who have been adopted or fostered, my wife was fostered, the rejection inside must be so hurtful and I’ve not got to lose track of that hurt, I’m fortunate that I’ve never had cause to come even close to saying I hate my parents.

If an adoptive mother doesn’t understand it is a lifetimes work then they are not really fit to be in such a privileged position imo.  Vulnerable babies/children/adult adoptees deserve unconditional love and respect for their situation which allows them to build self esteem.  I have seen the love/hate struggle by an adoptee trying to love her abusive mother but hating her at the same time.  I can see how that could and has boiled over into violence, if she killed her mother it could be called a ‘crime of passion’.  Not sure if cold blooded, premeditated murder would ever be considered in such a situation.  I wonder if once the adoptive child gives up and stops trying to find that love within the mother would she care any more? Would she bother?  Maybe if she wanted to be free once and for all. Not sure.

[Jan]

hi susan yes,didnt really want to say it on the forum because of any future repercussions

I would not worry about it too much .


I have learnt to understand that people who think Jeremys conviction is correct emphasise all his bad points and people who think he is innocent have to do the same to those that they think are responsible .

It took me a long time to learn not to believe "opinions" and try and stick to the documents.

however those documents keep throwing up lots of questions . Otherwise we would all still not be here.


For example Anne has been called Miss Marple for making all her notes and being suspicious . In retrospect I would also be that person . I saw a robbery happening once and I immediately made notes of everything I saw . Just for reference and because  I was angry .

but I would love to know where her notes are about finding the silencer .

[guest7363]

You never said you were though.

I know Lookout I thought Anne was Bambi at first 😂😂😂

[sami]

I would not worry about it too much .


I have learnt to understand that people who think Jeremys conviction is correct emphasise all his bad points and people who think he is innocent have to do the same to those that they think are responsible .

It took me a long time to learn not to believe "opinions" and try and stick to the documents.

however those documents keep throwing up lots of questions . Otherwise we would all still not be here.


For example Anne has been called Miss Marple for making all her notes and being suspicious . In retrospect I would also be that person . I saw a robbery happening once and I immediately made notes of everything I saw . Just for reference and because  I was angry .

but I would love to know where her notes are about finding the silencer .

she is very untrusting,unless you have known her for long time but than who could blame her

[Caroline]

she is very untrusting,unless you have known her for long time but than who could blame her

In her position - who wouldn't be?

[guest7363]

If an adoptive mother doesn’t understand it is a lifetimes work then they are not really fit to be in such a privileged position imo.  Vulnerable babies/children/adult adoptees deserve unconditional love and respect for their situation which allows them to build self esteem.  I have seen the love/hate struggle by an adoptee trying to love her abusive mother but hating her at the same time.  I can see how that could and has boiled over into violence, if she killed her mother it could be called a ‘crime of passion’.  Not sure if cold blooded, premeditated murder would ever be considered in such a situation.  I wonder if once the adoptive child gives up and stops trying to find that love within the mother would she care any more? Would she bother?  Maybe if she wanted to be free once and for all. Not sure.

Good  post Maggie and some good points, I feel more inclined to feel  this was a hatred and greed crime not just hatred Maggie 🙈

[Caroline]

Good  post Maggie and some good points, I feel more inclined to feel  this was a hatred and greed crime not just hatred Maggie 🙈

I think mainly greed.

[sami]

In her position - who wouldn't be?

exactly caroline,having known her for quite a while she has discussed the murders with me over the years in more detail