Jeremy Bamber proven innocent?

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Actually, she wasn’t. It’s not a crime not to report one.

Caroline, she'd known for long enough the amount of times he'd allegedly made all sorts of threats-----statement----yet did nothing about it. It's her knowing that's the big issue here.

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There were the sleeping pills, the fire then the abject hatred he'd felt and if that's not enough to send you to the police nothing is. She knew, Caroline and that's the crime.

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We ALL want to know why she chose to ignore these threats over the period of time that they were together. She didn't help those who were murdered did she ?
Then telling him to go back to bed when he'd rang ?? She should have rang the police from where she was !

[Jane]

There were the sleeping pills, the fire then the abject hatred he'd felt and if that's not enough to send you to the police nothing is. She knew, Caroline and that's the crime.

It seems it may be more of a moral crime than a legal one. It's often the moral crimes that get to us more deeply because there's nothing in law to satisfy our desire for retribution.

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It seems it may be more of a moral crime than a legal one. It's often the moral crimes that get to us more deeply because there's nothing in law to satisfy our desire for retribution.

According to her statements it seemed to have been a continuing topic of conversation over time that his family were going to meet their fate somehow.
Had it been a one-off then I suppose it can be passed off but circumstances dictate that to kill was a regular occurrence every time he opened his mouth.
Moral ? I call it criminal. She knew his feelings on the matter. I couldn't go out with someone with death on their mind, could you ?

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It was even spread around to his uncle and he did damn all about it.

[Jane]

According to her statements it seemed to have been a continuing topic of conversation over time that his family were going to meet their fate somehow.
Had it been a one-off then I suppose it can be passed off but circumstances dictate that to kill was a regular occurrence every time he opened his mouth.
Moral ? I call it criminal. She knew his feelings on the matter. I couldn't go out with someone with death on their mind, could you ?

It seems to have taken hold/escalated the previous Christmas, but whilst it was a "continuing topic of conversation" we can't know if it was on a daily basis. It wasn't as if they lived together 24/7.

Yes, a one-off could have been over-looked. More than that, I think I'd have been fearful for my own safety. I wouldn't, for any length of time, want to be around someone capable of that depth of hatred. Naturally, these days, I'd probably suggest a course of therapy....................just before I left!

[Caroline]

There were the sleeping pills, the fire then the abject hatred he'd felt and if that's not enough to send you to the police nothing is. She knew, Caroline and that's the crime.

The pills were never used although there is a moral duty to report a crime, it’s not a crime in itself. However, if you’re arguing that she is guilty of not reporting a crime - it means Bamber is guilty!

[Caroline]

The pills were never used although there is a moral duty to report a crime, it’s not a crime in itself. However, if you’re arguing that she is guilty of not reporting a crime - it means Bamber is guilty!

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q514.htm

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https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q514.htm

That being the case, then she remains an accessory with possible perjury thrown in for good measure.

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Blimey, what with Sheila saying she could kill her children and Jeremy his whole family-------------

[Caroline]

That being the case, then she remains an accessory with possible perjury thrown in for good measure.

She doesn't remain an accessory - she didn't report a crime which isn't a crime. To be an accessory you would need to prove she was involved. Being as you think Bamber is innocent - how can she be an accessory?

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She doesn't remain an accessory - she didn't report a crime which isn't a crime. To be an accessory you would need to prove she was involved. Being as you think Bamber is innocent - how can she be an accessory?

On the premise that he wasn't innocent, she would have been guilty by association.

[ngb1066]

She doesn't remain an accessory - she didn't report a crime which isn't a crime. To be an accessory you would need to prove she was involved. Being as you think Bamber is innocent - how can she be an accessory?

If JB is guilty JM could properly in law be regarded as an accessory.  You are right in saying that it is not a criminal offence to fail to report a crime (with some exceptions such as in terrorist cases).  However, when originally interviewed by police on her account she gave a false account of her conversation with JB during the night in order to protect him.  That is a criminal offence (in fact it is several).  JM potentially faced a lot of problems.  We have covered this in detail a few years back - you may recall I had some heated exchanges with Steve-UK on the subject.____

[Jane]

If JB is guilty JM could properly in law be regarded as an accessory.  You are right in saying that it is not a criminal offence to fail to report a crime (with some exceptions such as in terrorist cases).  However, when originally interviewed by police on her account she gave a false account of her conversation with JB during the night in order to protect him.  That is a criminal offence (in fact it is several).  JM potentially faced a lot of problems.  We have covered this in detail a few years back - you may recall I had some heated exchanges with Steve-UK on the subject.____

So if she felt the need to protect him, could that not mean she was convinced he'd committed murder? Doesn't it also mean that she didn't deliberately lie to get him convicted of something he was entirely innocent of?