Jeremy Bamber proven innocent?

[Caroline]

Oh I am. I make no secret of my opinion of Julie Mugford and the relatives. However, I haven't accused them of fabricating evidence, or making things up.

Perhaps yu don't mean to but you do come over as a Bamber supporter - if you're on the fence, then there must be things that don't sit well with you about Bamber himself?

[Kaldin]

Perhaps yu don't mean to but you do come over as a Bamber supporter - if you're on the fence, then there must be things that don't sit well with you about Bamber himself?

Of course there are, but they are mainly forensic issues.

[Caroline]

Of course there are, but they are mainly forensic issues.

Nothing about Jeremy himself?

[Jane]

Oh I am. I make no secret of my opinion of Julie Mugford and the relatives. However, I haven't accused them of fabricating evidence, or making things up.

You may not think you do, but EVERYTHING you say of them is slanted towards dislike and screams of negativity, a tiny example being "Ann say a lot of things", Any one new to the case and reading what you have to say would be left in NO doubt of what you feel. Yet you STILL insist you're not biased in Jeremy's favour? Look a little more deeply.

[Caroline]

You may not think you do, but EVERYTHING you say of them is slanted towards dislike and screams of negativity, a tiny example being "Ann say a lot of things", Any one new to the case and reading what you have to say would be left in NO doubt of what you feel. Yet you STILL insist you're not biased in Jeremy's favour? Look a little more deeply.

Have to say when I thought he was innocent, I was biased too. Reading my old posts makes me cringe.

[Kaldin]

Nothing about Jeremy himself?

Like what? His behavior, his attitude? No, not really.

[Kaldin]

You may not think you do, but EVERYTHING you say of them is slanted towards dislike and screams of negativity, a tiny example being "Ann say a lot of things", Any one new to the case and reading what you have to say would be left in NO doubt of what you feel. Yet you STILL insist you're not biased in Jeremy's favour? Look a little more deeply.

Your favourable view of Julie makes you biased in her favour, and your view of Jeremy as a person also makes you biased, so maybe you should look a little deeper yourself.

My view of Julie and the relatives concerns issues which are not to do with hard evidence, except that there is doubt cast on Julie's testimony because of the press deal.

[Jane]

Have to say when I thought he was innocent, I was biased too. Reading my old posts makes me cringe.

Yeah, hands on heart, I've been on the other side of where I think Kaldin is now. I'd have more respect if they had the courage of their convictions rather than hiding behind being openminded and continually posting in Jeremy's defence.

[Kaldin]

Yeah, hands on heart, I've been on the other side of where I think Kaldin is now. I'd have more respect if they had the courage of their convictions rather than hiding behind being openminded and continually posting in Jeremy's defence.

I'm not convinced one way or the other, and it's nothing to do with hiding or cowardice.

[Caroline]

Your favourable view of Julie makes you biased in her favour, and your view of Jeremy as a person also makes you biased, so maybe you should look a little deeper yourself.

My view of Julie and the relatives concerns issues which are not to do with hard evidence, except that there is doubt cast on Julie's testimony because of the press deal.

I don't have a favourable view on Julie back then and I don't believe we have the WHOLE truth, however, I believe that what she told the police, is what Bamber told her.

[Jane]

Your favourable view of Julie makes you biased in her favour, and your view of Jeremy as a person also makes you biased, so maybe you should look a little deeper yourself.

My view of Julie and the relatives concerns issues which are not to do with hard evidence, except that there is doubt cast on Julie's testimony because of the press deal.

Yes, but I've done, of Jeremy, exactly what you're doing now. I didn't like Julie then. I still don't like her, BUT, it's not necessary for me to like her to try to understand her, in the same way I've attempted to understand what Jeremy has done..............and Sheila.................and RB..................and Ann.

[Kaldin]

I don't have a favourable view on Julie back then and I don't believe we have the WHOLE truth, however, I believe that what she told the police, is what Bamber told her.

I was replying to Jane, who clearly thinks that Julie was a poor little victim who was abused and groomed.

[Jane]

I'm not convinced one way or the other, and it's nothing to do with hiding or cowardice.

You say one thing. You're writing convinces me -and I imagine, everyone else reading you- otherwise.

[Kaldin]

Julie's testimony and statements are compelling, but it simply has to be considered that they might not be true. It's her word against Jeremy's word.

[Kaldin]

You say one thing. You're writing convinces me -and I imagine, everyone else reading you- otherwise.

It's up to them to speak for themselves. I can't help it if you don't like what I say.